SubJeff on 13/3/2020 at 21:25
jkcerda - are you just trolling?
Because you really seem to not understand any aspect of this. At all.
Renzatic on 13/3/2020 at 21:27
On one hand, you have a system that will only do the absolute necessary minimum in order to maximize profits. On the other, you have a system that's only as good as the people running it. At least with the latter, you can hold someone accountable. If the insurance companies fuck you over, all you can do is bitch at them, which they'll usually ignore, or you can attempt to sue them, which is difficult to do, because they're lawyered up to hell and back, and you're probably poor now due to your insurance company fucking you over.
zombe on 13/3/2020 at 21:32
Yep. Case count is exploding here as was, unfortunately, expected. State ~4 hours ago. Total: 700+ tests, 79 positives (~1.3M pop).
jkcerda on 13/3/2020 at 21:49
Quote Posted by SubJeff
jkcerda - are you just trolling?
Because you really seem to not understand any aspect of this. At all.
not panicking like many of you seemingly are does not mean I don't understand it.
Renzatic on 13/3/2020 at 22:37
Who here is panicking?
Renzatic on 13/3/2020 at 23:17
Which is the prime example of why we should be taking this seriously, and not dismissing it as "not even as bad as the flu", JK. That's not panic. That's appropriate cautiousness.
demagogue on 13/3/2020 at 23:38
Alright, here you go. Let's make it official.
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https://i.imgur.com/xItDwCi.pngIt's probably been said, but Trump's response is not hard to understand. His brand of NPD is the kind that prizes power over powerlessness, and it's important that the powerless get the suffering that's coming to them for being weak. A disease outbreaks is the concrete sign of the weakness of a shithole country. And in NPD logic, no matter what, we can't be a shithole country or I'd be the president of a shithole people. So I think he was under pretty extreme psychological pressure to deny corona is a threat to the US and hide evidence of it. But once it is clearly in, he has to be "presidential" in the moment and show what a "powerful country" does, like shutting down all travel to Europe in a single stroke. It's all signaling.
Renzatic on 13/3/2020 at 23:52
To be fair, shutting down all travel for a temporary period isn't too terrible of an idea, given the circumstances. It's just that more needs to be done, and it needs to be done two weeks ago.
Gryzemuis on 14/3/2020 at 00:44
As I wrote, Rudy Gobert of the Utah Jazz got tested positive Wednesday night. Immediately, even before they got on the plane back to Utah, all team-members of the Utah Jazz got tested for covid-19. And the coaching staff. And the rest of the traveling staff of the Utah Jazz. Over 50 tests done.
Yesterday Charles Barkley (ex-NBA player, Hall of Famer, now media-personality) felt a bit ill. Flu-like symptoms a bit. He went home and got tested for covid-19. (Result is not known yet).
So I follow NBA basketball. I sometimes read reddit.com/r/nba.
Dozens and dozens of posters on reddit.com: "How come all these rich people get tested for covid-19 immediately ? My father/mother/grandpa/grandma were ill this week, they went to the hospital, stood in line for a long time, and then were told they could *NOT* get a test. Didn't qualify. Missing one symptom, fever not high enough, no proven contact with a confirmed covid-19 case, etc, etc".
Oklahoma state can do 100 tests per day. They used half of their daily tests last Wednesday on a bunch of rich kids out of state.
Trump announced that he negotiated with US healthcare insurance that nobody has to pay a deductible for the cost of getting tested for covid-19. What he didn't say is that you can only get tested if your healthcare insurer agrees/authorizes a test. Now it may be that hospitals are denying doing tests because they don't have enough test-kits atm. But it might also be that they'll keep denying tests, just to keep costs down. We'll have to wait and see.
I've said it before. Poverty, excessive costs of health-care, and bad/no health-care insurance for a large part of the population, are factors that are gonna make this outbreak a lot worse in the US than in other countries.
