Azaran on 3/8/2021 at 20:48
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https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-a-massachusetts-outbreak-revealed-just-how-infectious-the-delta-variant-could-be) This is not good
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The CDC reported on one outbreak that occurred in Provincetown, Massachusetts, following several large public events.
Almost 470 COVID-19 cases occurred among state residents who traveled to Provincetown for those events. Of those, 74 percent occurred in fully vaccinated people.
Testing also showed that 90 percent of the cases were caused by the Delta variant. The results were published July 30 in the CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly ReportTrusted Source.
Based on this data, “it is very clear that the Delta variant is transmitting despite vaccination,” said Dr. Edward Jones-Lopez, an infectious diseases specialist at Keck Medicine of USC. “That is obviously very concerning.”
On the plus side, it looks like the vaccines are still protective against serious cases and death, but whether they prevent Delta-induced Long Covid is still unknown
faetal on 3/8/2021 at 22:07
They reduce chance and inoculum (viral dose) of transmission too. So vaccination still definitely useful and having a positive impact on public health.
Eventually, the virus will mutate to evade the immunity entirely, it's a matter of when rather than if. I would expect that the only way to keep up with it will be some kind of pre-emptive vaccine development pipeline with various RNA constructs for predicted mutations developed right up to the stage where it is ready for mass production and then rolled out ASAP when the variants are spotted in the wild.
I guess it is probably going to be a good time to buy shares in Pfizer...
I can't help but feel that this might have been at least mitigated if more countries had bit the bullet and locked down tighter, sooner and there was less vaccine hesitancy. Now the virus has had ample time and bodies to infect to keep its mutation ahead of our countermeasures. So on top of flu, we'll now have coronaviruses as a permanent seasonal fixture, with the added goodness that they cause vascular inflammation, so we're probably looking at long term elevation of cardiovascular mortality & morbidity too.
All of the whiney freedom-march dickheads who are too precious to wear a fucking mask are the same people we're going to have to share social responsibility with when climate change comes home to roost too, which is a fucking cheerful thought.
lowenz on 3/8/2021 at 23:02
Exactly.
Having these deadbrain antivax/antimask people saying "YOU'VE BEEN BRAINWASHED LIKE A GOOD SHEEP YOU ARE, NOTHING OF THIS IS REAL!!111 YOU'RE DANCING TO ELITES SCORE!!!1111"
Azaran on 3/8/2021 at 23:28
Quote Posted by faetal
I would expect that the only way to keep up with it will be some kind of pre-emptive vaccine development pipeline with various RNA constructs for predicted mutations developed right up to the stage where it is ready for mass production and then rolled out ASAP when the variants are spotted in the wild.
There's (
https://www.livescience.com/pan-coronavirus-vaccine-future-pandemics.html) this, but I'm not sure how far it is in production
faetal on 4/8/2021 at 16:21
That's encouraging. The challenge may end up being how to get vaccination rates high enough to slow down all of the viruses so that they don't get enough oportunity to mutate past it somehow.
Pyrian on 20/8/2021 at 19:56
Lol. That's good. And one of my favorite meme formats.
faetal on 21/8/2021 at 13:27
From the article:
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However, the study's authors immediately cautioned against drawing too many conclusions from the results. Besides the small sample size, the study itself was also designed to test antibody levels in those with breakthrough infections, not to assess the risk of developing long COVID for fully vaccinated people.