Cipheron on 16/12/2020 at 12:22
Sorry I talk to a lot of QAnons and right-wingers online it's really impossible to tell especially this year. i have my landlord telling me about Covid / 5G stuff he read on Facebook when he comes to get the rent, he wears the mask because you're supposed to but also laughs and says everyone knows the masks don't work. And my flatmate has been telling me similar stuff, he was trying to tell me how hydroxchloroaquine was the cure a while ago, it must be true because Trump said it.
I take people at face value when they say dumb shit, because there are people saying dumb shit everywhere, especially in 2020.
Anyway I knew they were joking about the super-hero-mutations bit, but not sure he got the "doesn't change your DNA" bit.
Gryzemuis on 16/12/2020 at 13:20
Sorry, talk about mutations in DNA just requires someone to start talking about superheroes.
A hundred new, inexperienced, autistic superheroes! Terrible. It's easy to imagine what could go wrong. Especially if you've seen last year's documentary about how superheroes are not all morally the best. (I think that documentary was called "The Boyz" or something. Watch it. It's a weird title, because half the superheroes were women. That documentary was an eye opener for me. Let's hope very few of the new superheroes next year will be autistic).
BTW, I don't believe in Poe's Law. I don't want to be associate with someone who was a racist, who married his 13 year old niece, who as an alcoholic and a drugabuser.
[OK, I'll stop now. :cheeky:]
faetal on 16/12/2020 at 15:41
Quote Posted by Cipheron
I take people at face value when they say dumb shit, because there are people saying dumb shit everywhere, especially in 2020.
This is basically what happens when you have global authority structures essentially using media & politics to lie / obfuscate truth in order to consolidate power & wealth for a few decades.
The disenfranchised feel that there is deception from above, and react to that feeling in a broad-scpectrum fashion.
Unfortunately, public trust of science is collateral damage.
Thor on 16/12/2020 at 17:28
To be fair the masks are overall ineffective unless you cough without covering your mouth and facing horizontally - then they kinda stop your viruses from accelerating them 2 meters. One can argue that they may be useful for 2 people talking, but practically I would choose the 2-meter distance (or heck - make it 5) rather than wear a mask. Could make exceptions for hospitals just for that extra spit of potential safety in a health-sensitive place and leave them as recommendations elsewhere - shit would become a lot less clowny. As is well covered by now, the masks let viruses in effortlessly and restrict you from breathing fresh air as well, which isn't going to do your health any favors after doing it daily for a while, since the breath is a major way how the body gets rid of its garbage. A 15-30 min trip inside a store isn't going to kill anyone without serious problems going in, so it can be tolerated for the meme value or psychological safety, but pretending it saves a ton of lives is naive.
That said I wear my mask where I am closer to people out of respect for other people's fears and frankly, so does everyone else I've seen except a rare exception (about 1 in 1000 or so), so at least here the media is portraying a very disingenuous picture making up "anti-maskers" memes or idk what their buzzwords are actually. I notice often that the people who make up buzzwords for another group of people tend to have the least amount of intelligence to express, but that's neither here nor there. A lot of people think that the masks are retarded but will still wear them for one reason or another.
The dumbest law I've ever seen pass in my entire life (not sure if in the US) is that kids from grades 1-4 who are still asked to attend school are going to require wearing masks in school all day. That is an absolute honey bread for conspiracy theorists because surely the government wouldn't have a collective IQ that is lower than a poorly seasoned potato and instead be making devious plans to reduce the world population? Makes one wonder... This is probably why as of late I've distanced myself from this world as it is too cringe and instead binge on cosmos videos. As frustrating as the fundamental unknowns are, the Cosmos is infinitely more interesting than this rock (thanks to humans being on it, providing such a strong negative interest that all the interesting stuff on this rock can't compensate).
Quote Posted by faetal
This is basically what happens when you have global authority structures essentially using media & politics to lie / obfuscate truth in order to consolidate power & wealth for a few decades.
The disenfranchised feel that there is deception from above, and react to that feeling in a broad-scpectrum fashion.
Unfortunately, public trust of science is collateral damage.
Well said.
How I feel lately:
Inline Image:
https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--a5hkVP4N--/t_Preview/b_rgb:262c3a,c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1464687300/production/designs/528917_1.jpgThough recently I discovered that there are a shitton of rogue planets in our galaxy, which would be an even more spectacular thing to hit us.
SubJeff on 16/12/2020 at 17:50
Wrong.
Marecki on 16/12/2020 at 18:13
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https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.12.422516v1.full)
Insert mandatory Borg reference at will.
Mind you, from what I can see this has not been peer-reviewed for publication yet and PubPeer comments on this preprint are, ahem, skeptical. Still interesting (and not unheard of, living organisms have got quite a lot of interesting stuff assimilated into their DNA), though!
Thor on 16/12/2020 at 18:43
Quote Posted by SubJeff
Wrong.
Well argumented as usual, friend. :thumb:
SubJeff on 16/12/2020 at 18:46
Every other sentence is wrong. At least every other sentence. What more do your want me to say?
You're just wrong.
SubJeff on 16/12/2020 at 18:53
Quote Posted by Marecki
(
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.12.422516v1.full)
Insert mandatory Borg reference at will.
Mind you, from what I can see this has not been peer-reviewed for publication yet and PubPeer comments on this preprint are, ahem, skeptical. Still interesting (and not unheard of, living organisms have got quite a lot of interesting stuff assimilated into their DNA), though!
Oh FFS please no.
FFuuuuuuuuuuucksSake!
I really, really hope this is wrong.
Thor on 16/12/2020 at 19:36
Quote Posted by SubJeff
Every other sentence is wrong. At least every other sentence. What more do your want me to say?
You're just wrong.
To give your arrogance some base. Otherwise, you present yourself as just baselessly arrogant in saying "no" to everything you disagree with as if there's no debate to be had and no reason to explain yourself. I suppose living in a bubble where everyone usually agrees with everyone else in the bubble save for the occasional bypassing "intruder" does that to a person, but it doesn't give an impression that you have any friends who disagree with you on anything non-trivial (i.e. maybe food preferences or something as such is tolerated, but that's an extrapolation on my part).