demagogue on 1/10/2020 at 02:01

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Incidentally, my situation made the NYTimes, and a lot of other articles once you start looking into it
(https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/28/us/coronavirus-long-term-effects.html)

I went for a long time wondering if it was just me, but it seems most people that go through what I went through wondered that, and it's turning out it's by far the majority situation (according to this article), I think even more than the acute symptomatic cases, since a lot of asymptomatic cases still get it; but I'd have to double check that.

The long haulers are now becoming a force, since there's so many of them and they're finding each other.

I think sometime next year the public will start coming around to the realization the major issue with this disease isn't the respiratory part or deaths, but up to 1/3 of people that get it having dysautonomia for month and months afterwards (it's not clear for how long since the first generation is still only ~7 months in), the major symptoms of which you see over and over are tachycardia spells (racing heartbeat), constant dizziness, brain fog (like Alzheimer's-light), and chronic fatigue, and then a mixed bag of all kinds of heart, lung, and neurological issues making no case exactly like another. On the surface it's not as headline-grabbing as the acute symptoms and deaths, but it may end up being the more socially disruptive part, since it affects basically everything people want to do for months and months on end.

Pyrian on 2/10/2020 at 05:22

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Aaand now Trump has it.

Gryzemuis on 6/10/2020 at 15:09

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In NL we're trying to break the world record. 4500 New (tested) cases per day, both today and yesterday.
According to this:
(https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/)
Click and sort on "New Cases".
Nr 1 is India, 1.3 billion people, 29k new cases today. 1 New case in 45k people.
Nr 2 is Russia, 145 million people, 12k new cases today. 1 New case in 12k people.
Nr 3 is The Netherlands, 17 million people, 4500 new cases today. 1 New case in 4k people.
Nr 4 is the USA, 350 million people, 7k new cases today. 1 New case in 51k people.

I hear people left and right being infected. A son of someone I know had it during the spring (he was tested positive). Now he's ill again. Not tested yet, but 12 people in his vincinity are also ill, 4 of them tested positive. I think everyone is a lot less careful than they were during the spring. I'm afraid I am a little less careful myself, although I live in pretty extreme social isolation myself (living alone, no wife or kids, no job at the moment, etc). The good news is, the amount of people in hospital and in ICU is a lot lower than it was in Spring. But it seems it's time again to stay indoor as much as possible. Fuck.

Gryzemuis on 6/10/2020 at 22:32

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About the numbers on that website: I guess they change constantly. Or maybe I misclicked on something this afternoon. Sorry. But anyway: relative to our size, we had a lot of new cases. Even with the numbers that I see now, which are totally different from what I saw this afternoon, NL still seems to have the most new cases per 1000 people.


What happened ? I'd say we were lured into a false sense of security. Especially during August, new infections were low, few people in the hospital and in ICU. We got careless. It ramped up from almost nothing to this high number in 4-6 weeks. First we had a wave of mostly young people getting infected. And now it also starts to hit the older people. Deathcount is also on the rise. Although nothing compared to what we had in April/May. Since about a week people started to take note. The government has ordered new rules. People are starting to wear masks. More than in April/May. I'm sure we'll get it under control again. It's not like people are rebelling against the rules, or don't believe it is a serious matter. We do. We just got careless.

I fear I'm in for another 6 months of social isolation. Not looking forward to that. I live alone. I don't have a job at the moment. In May I decided to look for a new job. I thought I had one. Full time telecommuting. After 3 months it turned out the job was not happening, because the team/company thought it was necessary that I traveled (abroad) to them for a few weeks, to get kickstarted. That was impossible, because of travel restrictions. A week later I got offered another (potential) job. I'll know before the end of the year if that one is happening. Another fulltime telecommuting job. But this time 2 of the company-founders know me personally, so I don't need to travel to get started.

Everything is non-trival and tricky now. I guess that holds true for everyone here. Fuck 2020.

henke on 7/10/2020 at 05:21

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In my city, Vaasa, we had had just a few new cases every day, last spring, when it was at its worst, then things calmed down over summer. Recently it's started ramping up again, last week we had ~10 new cases per day and then this sunday: BOOM! 64 new cases in a day! We haven't used masks much here, but this week you see a lot of them. I wore a mask for the first time going to the store on monday, will be doing that until things settle down again.

Things had gotten much laxer over summer and people started socializing more. I've been going to pubquiz nights every other week with friends, but that's on ice now. :erg: