heywood on 28/9/2020 at 20:41

---

It looks like all of the countries in Europe who had a first wave in the spring are in or entering a second wave now. Fortunately, this one appears to be far less deadly than the first.

Gryzemuis on 29/9/2020 at 15:05

---

In NL we haven't really done facemasks. Only in public transportation. (Which I've avoided like the plague since I bought my first car). You hardly see people in the street with a facemask. That might change soon.

I think the 2nd wave is going to infect many more people than the 1st wave we had in spring.
So I'm thinking of buying one or two re-usable masks. Or a few onetime-use facemasks.
Any recommendations ?

I'd prefer a re-usable mask. Maybe with throw-away filters, or something. If that exists.
Not too uncomfortable. Not too expensive.
Do those exist ? What should I look out for ?

Jeshibu on 29/9/2020 at 15:18

---

I've tried a few and was satisfied with the ones I got from (https://mondkapje.com/) mondkapje.com. They've got adjustable ear loop sizes and a metal strip at the nose to keep it tight there. Not suited for long beards though.

Oh wait he blocked me, right?

heywood on 29/9/2020 at 18:40

---

We've been required to wear masks at work since March, so I've gotten used to having them on up to 12 hours at a time. We also wear them when shopping, dropping off and picking up kids from school, and pretty much and time in public when you're around other people.

I've seen studies showing surgical masks are the most effective option short of N95. At work, they offer me a new surgical-like mask (if I want one) whenever I drive up to the gate, so that's what I used for a long time. But I've had trouble with glasses fogging when using that type of mask, and I need reading glasses to use my computer. I still use them in public, but now when I go to work I wear a three-layer fabric mask instead. Two and three layer fabric masks are available everywhere in all kinds of shapes, colors, and prints, with varying degrees of comfort and effectiveness. I prefer three-layer for the extra material and they're still easy to breath through. Most have pockets where you can insert a PM 2.5 carbon filter. I don't think the filters are all that effective because they are too resistant to airflow, so your breath just goes around them.

I suggest ordering a few different types and shapes to try, then pick the one that fits your face well and doesn't leave gaps around the edges.

Pyrian on 29/9/2020 at 19:29

---

Treatment has substantially improved, but keep in mind that deaths trail detections by 3+ weeks, and further, that newer waves seem to spread through younger populations and then reach older family members, adding even more delay from the rise in cases to the rise in deaths.