bob_doe_nz on 11/8/2020 at 21:01
Quote Posted by Sulphur
We can't do much except ensure we're limiting contact as much as possible regardless of how 'safe' everyone feels they are. And in my own family, we have at least one member who gives exactly zero fucks about that because he doesn't want to be cooped up at home.
Hah! Within minutes of the announcement, supermarkets that were open late were getting an influx of customers panic buying. Thank goodness New Zealand makes it's own toilet paper. I've still got yeast and some flour. So I can keep my mind busy baking.
zombe on 13/8/2020 at 07:21
Speaking of mysterious surfacing of the virus. One of the fully random antibody testing study ended giving some hard facts. Don't have it handy, but can still convey some of the points - just without the numbers.
Many people never had any symptoms, but clearly were infected. They, with a bit of research, were able to infect others - but to a much-much smaller degree (ie. 0-1 infections over time - up to weeks).
I would say that gives ground, with a bit of luck, for the virus to stay hidden for very long time - even multiple months (even a mere 1 hop can be enough to stay hidden for an entire month!). That matches with our experience too as, before the recent flareup (*), there were plenty of new cases were no likely source could be found. I bet some of thous were from thous numerous hidden (and rarely reinfecting as the study shows) ones and not just due to contact tracing limitations.
*) Explosion in cases has been prevented so far and there is reasonable hope that it can be managed - at least we seem to be back to single digit cases per day (from peak of 22). IF that holds. Still a long way back to the much more confortable 0-2 cases per day we had.
edit. Speaking of the recent flareup: nightclubs are a terrible idea it seems (surprise, i know). Currently there are 37+21+19=77 cases traced back to just three nightclubs.
Pyrian on 13/8/2020 at 07:42
On a positive note, observational data is starting to pretty strongly suggest that mask wearing makes for
milder cases when you
do get it:
(
https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s11606-020-06067-8.pdf)
This isn't terribly surprising, as dose-effects are well-known in virology. Basically once you're infected, your immune system starts mounting a response and the virus starts replicating exponentially in a sort of race. A larger dose gives the virus a head start.
SubJeff on 13/8/2020 at 10:46
Don't let the MAH RAIGHTS group see that.
Or indeed our own SD.
bob_doe_nz on 13/8/2020 at 10:54
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53761122) 14 new cases. *sigh*. At least they are from the same group. Now we've found out that they have been out of the Auckland and down to one of our touristy hot spots. We're going to pull a Victoria, Australia if this keeps up.
demagogue on 13/8/2020 at 11:00
We're getting 300 a day in this city, and we're still considered one of the "lucky" countries. 14 is not the number where you start sighing.
Tony_Tarantula on 13/8/2020 at 15:48
Quote Posted by SubJeff
Don't let the MAH RAIGHTS group see that.
Or indeed our own SD.
In Tennessee they're trying to make it so people who refuse to wear masks can be prosecuted for attempted murder the same way people who spread AIDS are.
Maybe we could extend that law to people like SD who are maliciously trying to kill more people by discouraging mask use.
Renzatic on 13/8/2020 at 15:57
Saying "Tennessee is trying to..." is a gross exaggeration. One Nashville Metro Council member stated she believes refusing to wear a mask in public should be treated as such, but it hasn't been taken up as an official policy.
Tony_Tarantula on 13/8/2020 at 16:11
So?
It's a good idea and should be supported. And she's a highly Respected member of the community with a lot of support.