zombe on 3/8/2020 at 05:15
Quote Posted by icemann
Stage 4 restrictions have been announced for my state of Victoria, after a massive spike in cases.
Sad to see the still ongoing spike - after the long/low stable plateau.
Noticed that there is some billionaire there - seemingly trying to be a dipshit nuicance with lawsuits. All i have seen from him is either stupidity or profound idiocy. However, legal matters can be "weird" if you have the money to spend - does he have a leg to stand on?
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Our flareup is still developing. Went from weeks of 0-2 cases per day to double digits now (weekend did not get to double digits, but that is probably just part of the weekly cycle). Last i heard contact tracing went over 100 identified who were near him for prolonged time. Reportedly he has been very cooperative at least - really helpful with the mitigation of the fallout.
Very irritating nonetheless. Cannot really fine him either for his digression - that is only reserved when there are signs of malice. People here understand that fines would only hurt in the long run and likely make the resulting outbreaks much worse.
*) note: referring to the initial spreader as "he" because English is fucking stupid and i cannot be arsed to fiddle with the workarounds. I do not know nor care about his gender. My native language does not have that he/she nonsense - making it extra annoying when the fucking English forces me to think about it. I am not really fluent in any of the workarounds either, to be fair. It is really fucking annoying. Please fix your god damn fucking language. ... Sorry. Had to vent a bit.
Starker on 3/8/2020 at 06:51
I just use they/them -- it's a workaround that has been around for a long time, though sometimes people get oddly weird about it.
Also, yeah, if they are cooperating, at least they are taking responsibility and have probably learned their lesson. No point in making an example out of them pour encourager les autres.
heywood on 3/8/2020 at 15:06
Trends are going the wrong way through most of Europe now. Most of Southeastern Europe seems to be in the middle a major wave. A lot of other countries that were in good shape for a while now appear to be on the front end of a second wave. Some of the biggest countries e.g. France, Germany, UK are not in a second wave yet, but are seeing a trend of increasing cases that looks like a precursor to another wave.
I hope leaders there are not as blind to it as many in the US were back in June. One big lesson learned from here is that states with high case numbers create high demand for testing, which in turn leads to longer wait times for test results. The testing delays make it impossible to effectively use a contact tracing and isolation strategy. So even states that all but eliminated community spreading are seeing it come back again because they can't test, trace, and isolate rapidly enough.
Starker on 3/8/2020 at 15:53
Yeah, I hope people are taking it more seriously this time. US gets a lot of focus in this thread, but let's not forget that a lot of Europe also botched the initial response badly, and tens of thousands of people needlessly died.
SD on 3/8/2020 at 18:25
Quote Posted by SubJeff
Still waiting on that explanation SD.
Not sure why I need an explanation, it is surely enough to know that X happens without knowing the precise mechanism. I'll leave the speculation to the doommongers.
Meanwhile, infections in the UK are up a bit (I guess the masks don't work after all, whoever could have predicted that) but deaths are down to a trickle.
Nicker on 3/8/2020 at 20:20
:rolleyes:
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I'll leave the
speculation to the doommongers.
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guess the masks don't work after all
And you see no problem with making these baseless and contradictory assertions, one line apart.
heywood on 3/8/2020 at 21:00
Over here, in the states hardest hit by the second wave, we started seeing case growth around the beginning of June, but deaths weren't going up. That fed a "what, me worry?" attitude and excuses like "cases are only going up because we're testing more". But sure enough, about a month later, we saw the expected increase in deaths. Fortunately, the death rate is much lower in this wave than the first one.
Nicker on 3/8/2020 at 22:05
In British Columbia, one of the most laid back and socially responsible provinces of Canada, we had Canada Day last month and BC Day this weekend. Lovely long weekends with hoards of people out rubbing elbows. Predictable, two weeks after Canada Day, cases increased. We all know what will happen in two weeks from now but the beaches and parks are chock a block, the stores are full of people and staff NOT wearing masks and paying no heed of distancing.
I think I need to start carrying a spiked bat with me when grocery shopping.
