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Nicker on 1/8/2020 at 17:10

Breitbart is heavily promoting Dr. Demon Semen who is promoting HCQ (hydroxychloroquine).

Harvester on 1/8/2020 at 17:36

If they're so adamant against a vaccine and want to promote regular drugs that they think work well against corona (which HCQ doesn't), why aren't they promoting remdesivir, where at least the research shows (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2007764) some promising results? Of course this is only used on people already hospitalized with Covid-19 and it probably wouldn't do anything if you took it preventively...

Also, read in the paper today that a vaccine developed in a lab in Leiden (the Netherlands) owned by pharma giant Johnson&Johnson looks (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/30/health/covid-19-vaccine-monkeys.html) promising, it seems to work well on monkeys.

Nicker on 1/8/2020 at 17:50

That's good news. Humans are monkeys, taxonomically speaking.

Harvester on 1/8/2020 at 17:56

I'm fairly confident a working, safe vaccine can be developed. But the question is how long the protection will last. Is this going to be something we have to take yearly like the flu shot? Because it's been shown that antibodies against covid disappear from ex-patients' blood pretty quickly.

Tocky on 1/8/2020 at 18:31

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You know why. Their lord and savior Trump has taken HCQ.

Azaran on 1/8/2020 at 18:33

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Because it's been shown that antibodies against covid disappear from ex-patients' blood pretty quickly.

The good news is antibodies are backed up by (https://www.genengnews.com/news/past-coronavirus-infections-may-leave-behind-t-cells-that-recognize-sars-cov-2/) T-cells, which last years, and may also have a protective effect against reinfection.

As for vaccines, I remember reading somewhere that they likely won't guard against reinfection, but will protect you from having a serious case, or long term damage from an infection, hopefully turning a covid infection into nothing more serious than a common cold.

bob_doe_nz on 2/8/2020 at 08:55

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Stage 4 restrictions have been announced for my state of Victoria, after a massive spike in cases.

You guys had one job...

Over here we're looking at several people who travelled from NZ to Australia who have been recently been diagnosed with Covid. Do we have unknown community infections in NZ? Nobody knows.

Testing is still going on but all of our new cases are in managed isolation.

heywood on 2/8/2020 at 13:19

Melbourne demonstrates that a super-spreading event can happen anywhere, anytime given the right opportunity.

Over here, in the New England region of the US where case counts are still far from their April peaks, we're dealing with party after party. Many of the parties have created clusters of cases, and our case numbers overall are trending up, albeit up at a slow rate. There have been some large parties and gatherings, and we are very, very lucky that the big ones haven't been spreading events. As Melbourne demonstrates, we're playing Russian roulette.

And how soon we forget. Boston was the epicenter of the first wave in this region, and it all started with one company conference in one hotel where 2/3 of the attendees acquired the virus, most likely from one of the execs who had traveled here from Europe. And the second biggest of the early super-spreading events in the region was a very large and lavish 40th birthday party in Connecticut where half of the guests got infected.

Now, just in the last two weeks, my wife and I have gotten invitations to (you guessed it) a large birthday party with ~75 invitees and an even larger wedding. Obviously we're not going. I guess you just can't underestimate stupidity.

lowenz on 2/8/2020 at 21:30

(https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07/brain-fog-heart-damage-covid-19-s-lingering-problems-alarm-scientists)

The list of lingering maladies from COVID-19 is longer and more varied than most doctors could have imagined. Ongoing problems include fatigue, a racing heartbeat, shortness of breath, achy joints, foggy thinking, a persistent loss of sense of smell, and damage to the heart, lungs, kidneys, and brain.

Early in the pandemic, doctors learned that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, can disrupt a breathtaking array of tissues in the body. Like a key fitting neatly into a lock, SARS-CoV-2 uses a spike protein on its surface to latch onto cells' ACE2 receptors. The lungs, heart, gut, kidneys, blood vessels, and nervous system, among other tissues, carry ACE2 on their cells' surfaces—and thus, are vulnerable to COVID-19. The virus can also induce a dramatic inflammatory reaction, including in the brain. Often, “The danger comes when the body responds out of proportion to the infection,” says Adrija Hajra, a physician at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City. She continues to care for those who were infected in the spring and are still recovering.

Hundreds of scans later, he has concluded that COVID-19 ravages the lungs less consistently and aggressively than SARS did, when about 20% of patients sustained lasting lung damage. “COVID-19 is in general a milder disease,” he says.

At the same time, the sheer breadth of complications linked to COVID-19 is mind-boggling. In late April, Akrami collaborated with Body Politic, a group of COVID-19 survivors, to survey more than 600 who still had symptoms after 2 weeks. She logged 62 different symptoms and is now readying the findings for publication and developing a second survey to capture longer term ailments. “Even though it's one virus, it can cause all different kinds of diseases in people,” says Akiko Iwasaki, an immunologist at Yale University who is studying lingering effects on the immune system.

SubJeff on 3/8/2020 at 03:30

Still waiting on that explanation SD.