lowenz on 11/3/2020 at 19:56
Quote Posted by Gryzemuis
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On a more serious note. I found this on YouTube. It's voice-messages (send via WhatApp) between Italian medici. I have no idea if it's real or a hoax. It's so long, that I think it's not a hoax. Maybe lowenz can tell more.
[video=youtube;J6jJBtSuLog]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6jJBtSuLog[/video].
for 40 yo and up.
Not for 20 yo.
SubJeff on 11/3/2020 at 21:25
Quote Posted by Harvester
Here in the Netherlands, in one of our 12 provinces, called Noord-Brabant, the infection rate is the highest. In that province, the government asks you to stay at home even with mild health complaints (like you could also just have a cold, but stay home just to be on the safe side). People are asked to work from their homes if their job allows it.
Good idea.
Quote Posted by jkcerda
buddy with family in Spain says they are looking to lock up the country as well.
Good idea.
Quote Posted by zombe
I wonder, what is the real death rate for the infection?
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https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd)
Reports 118K cases with 4K deaths - this gives a lower bound of over 3%. However, how many of thous cases are still open. Ie. not yet cured - still hospitalized (trouble cases) or at home (milder or just early stage cases). So, the naive and rounded down 3% sounds way off. Are there some stats for cured?
I hope this shit does not mutate to something worse.
Probably less that 1% in reality. Based of S Korean data where they have done widespread testing.
Italy's death rate, and especially that stratification, is now not pool-able with other data. The steps taken because of lack of capacity mean that many people will reach a treatment ceiling (artificial ventilation) based on X criteria. Ordinarily a high proportion of these people will live, if ventilated. Without, it's a dice roll and therefore not reflective of what we'd see with capacity.
This is a grim as it gets, outside sci-fi.
SubJeff on 11/3/2020 at 21:40
PS. The USA is in serious trouble. It's not been taken seriously, the politics and economics of it there are going to obfuscate any attempts to be sensible. Sadly. Good luck guys.
lowenz on 11/3/2020 at 21:47
Quote Posted by SubJeff
Italy's death rate, and especially that stratification, is now not pool-able with other data. The steps taken because of lack of capacity mean that many people will reach a treatment ceiling (artificial ventilation) based on X criteria. Ordinarily a high proportion of these people will live, if ventilated. Without, it's a dice roll and therefore not reflective of what we'd see with capacity.
This is a grim as it gets, outside sci-fi.
Yes.
We are there NOW.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usual_interstitial_pneumonia)
Gryzemuis on 12/3/2020 at 02:03
Listen to this.
Like many sports-leagues around the world, the NBA (USA basketball) is trying to find a way to deal with the corona-virus. Continue games or not ? With or without spectators ? You know the drill. Nothing decided yet. Nothing changed yet. Games continue as planned.
Frenchmen Rudy Gobert, center of the Utah Jazz, thinks it's all a load of crock. People are overreacting. It's just the flue. Stop panicking. To make a point, at a post-game media-meeting, Rudy intentionally frobs all microphones. "See, you cowards, nothing to worry about".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qxtxIVtOZE)
Today the Utah Jazz was supposed to play in Oklahoma City against the OKC Thunder.
5 Minutes before tip-off, it gets announced the game will be postponed.
Two players of the Utah Jazz were rumored to have flu symptoms.
One hour later, it is confirmed that Rudy Gobert has tested positive for the Corona-virus.
I'm not kidding. :)
Yet another hour later, the NBA announced that all games, the whole season is postponed.
Nobody has any idea what will happen next.
Renzatic on 12/3/2020 at 02:13
Back from Rockmart again. Still seems normal down near Atlanta.
Still, I'm gonna spend the next 9 or so days wondering, and I'm probably gonna hole up at the house for a good bit over the next two weeks or so.
Vae on 12/3/2020 at 02:14
President Donald Trump's Address to the Nation on the Coronavirus Pandemic
[video=youtube;XObGNl_XX7E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XObGNl_XX7E[/video]
Nicker on 12/3/2020 at 02:58
Quote Posted by SubJeff
PS. The USA is in serious trouble. It's not been taken seriously, the politics and economics of it there are going to obfuscate any attempts to be sensible. Sadly. Good luck guys.
And even though our response has been quick, universal and science based (thanks universal healthcare) Canada faces a huge disease threat from south of the border (thanks privatised sickness industry).
