SubJeff on 30/7/2020 at 21:24
Quote Posted by SD
More than aware of it. And I think it's dangerous to assume that cardiovascular injury is a result of infection rather than a risk factor for it.
I mean, if we looked at all the people who have died with covid, then deduced that old age is a consequence of the infection, it would be self-evidently ridiculous.
Hold on. You're saying that you're at higher risk of infection after you have a cardiovascular injury?
What's the mechanism of that then? Does injured myocardium become a coronavirus magnet?
Please explain.
Starker on 30/7/2020 at 22:24
Quote Posted by Pyrian
Herman Cain has passed away from COVID-19.
As has Bill Montgomery, the co-founder of Turning Point USA.
Nicker on 30/7/2020 at 23:27
Quote Posted by SubJeff
Please explain.
Because carts push horses!
Starker on 31/7/2020 at 05:02
He was a somewhat well known (enough to have run for president a couple of times) anti-mask Republican who attended the Tulsa rally without one and tested positive for COVID 9 days later.
heywood on 31/7/2020 at 22:45
Ouch.
If you don't mind me asking, you have school age children, right? What are you & your community planning to do about school? If you don't want to discuss publicly, I understand.
When it comes to school, I'm torn apart. I know how dangerous it could be, but I've seen my kids regress intellectually and behaviorally since March, and if we don't send our kids to school in the fall, either my wife or I will have to quit work. I'm the higher earner, but my wife just re-entered the workforce last Oct after taking 6 years off to be a stay at home mom. The timing was right and the job market was hot, but if she drops out of the workforce again in the middle of a recession it could hurt us bad later on.
My daughter is entering first grade this year. For the last two years, she was attending a private Montessori school. We were going to send her to the public school that's literally at the end of our street, but in light of COVID-19 we elected to keep her in the private school, because their elementary school program is very small and there's plenty of space to keep kids apart. I'm more worried about my son, who we're sending to the same school, but in an early childhood education program that is much denser.
Right now, we have 18 active cases in our town of 33k people. While that may seem low, and is way down from the peak of 183, half of the town are acting like the pandemic is over. I've seen a major decline in mask wearing, restaurants are blowing off the restrictions and filling to capacity, some people are having normal weddings, there's reports of large parties, and we're even going ahead with bike week (thankfully 100 miles away from me). State-wide, we're seeing an increase in new cases, thanks to the summer party and tourism season. So I'm really starting to second guess whether I should be sending my kids to school. The community just doesn't seem to be up to the challenge.
Pyrian on 31/7/2020 at 23:29
Ooof. No good choices. Yeah, my kids are 3&7. We're in a similar boat, but at least I can work from home. And our school district has opted for home learning this Fall, so that answers that. The little one went to a Montessori school; they haven't released plans for the Fall yet, so I don't know if they'll even be open or if they'll be doing home learning again like in the Spring.
It sucks not being able to take the kids much of anywhere. Hiking, tide pools, flying kites, our pool, not much else. I am very glad I have two kids that mostly get along. Some of my friends' only children are really, really lonely.
demagogue on 31/7/2020 at 23:48
My university asked if I was committing to a classroom for the fall term this week. They effectively left it to the teachers to decide for themselves what they want to do individually, have the class in a room or online. But if they were going to have it in a class, they had to commit to it by basically today.
Tokyo has just been entering its 2nd wave that was starting off slower than the 1st, so I had a reason to be optimistic and take the classroom, but I have an idea if they're starting up in-room classes, I remember reading that that's one of the biggest determinants of a real spike in cases, so I declined and committed to online classes. And then the next day there was a massive jump in cases and the rest of the week it's been going up from there.
Of course a lot can change before September, and the term lasts until January. But as long as they give me an option, I'm minimizing my time in crowds to the extent I can until I get a vaccine in me, even (or especially) if it looks safe for a while.
Starker on 1/8/2020 at 04:35
Meanwhile, the ruler of Philippines is saying stupid stuff again:
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53605108)
Philippines' president Rodrigo Duterte has once again told people to disinfect their face masks with petrol - insisting he was "not joking".
He had made similar remarks last week - but officials were quick to correct him, and suggested it was a joke.
Health officials also said cloths masks should be washed normally, and surgical masks replaced after use.
But on Friday, the president doubled down - saying "what I've said was true... go to a gasoline station".
There is no evidence that gasoline can disinfect masks; having prolonged contact with it can be harmful; and pouring flammable liquids can be a fire risk.
[...]
Mr Duterte said those who didn't have cleaning supplies could use gasoline as a disinfectant to clean their masks.
"At the end of the day, hang [the mask] somewhere and spray it with Lysol if you can afford it," he said, referencing a popular disinfectant brand.
"For people who don't [have Lysol], drench it in gasoline or diesel... just find some gasoline [and] dip your hand [with the mask] in it."
After last week's comments, presidential spokesman Harry Roque quickly corrected him.
"I can't believe that after four years of him as president, you still don't know [him]," said Mr Roque, according to news site Rappler.
"[It's only a] joke. Why would we use gasoline for washing?"
Meanwhile, health official Maria Rosario Vergeire said cloth masks should be washed and dried normally, and surgical masks replaced after use.
In February - shortly after the Philippines became the first country to register a Covid-19 death outside China - President Duterte moved to downplay the issue, saying the virus would eventually "die a natural death."
But after a month-long lull in recorded cases - a period which critics say wasn't used effectively to mass test and contact trace cases - numbers began to rise.
[...]
Tocky on 1/8/2020 at 16:42
Duterte doesn't sound that different from Trump and his disinfectant crap. Now the big thing on facebook is his supporters saying they will never take the vaccine once it is developed because they have a "cure" and that being hydroxychloroquine. They say Fauci is set to make millions from his investment in a vaccine. When you tell them that is a lie they just say "do your research" which is what every person who has never done any research says. The only thing I have been able to get out of where this is coming from is Breitbart disinformation but there must be other conservative sites I'm not privy to. I just don't want that crap on my feed. Conservatives are like Jim Jones followers though and will open their mouths like baby birds when mom comes for whatever crap is spewed forth.
