Starker on 11/3/2020 at 05:34
You mean by standards of food that gives you food poisoning?
Renzatic on 11/3/2020 at 05:44
Some bad foods apparently taste pretty good. There's a whole cottage industry built around letting meat rot a bit, then selling it to people as "aged."
Plus, there have been times I've been food poisoned by a meal I actually enjoyed. Well, the first time, anyway. It wasn't as good coming back up.
demagogue on 11/3/2020 at 10:07
It was Okinawa-style soba with "spare rib". Yeah it was pretty good. I wasn't really food poisoned, I just felt a little nausea the next day, and I'm just assuming it was that place because a few of the others also felt off (but not all of them). Could have also just been a coincidence.
zombe on 11/3/2020 at 11:29
I wonder, what is the real death rate for the infection?
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https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd)
Reports 118K cases with 4K deaths - this gives a lower bound of over 3%. However, how many of thous cases are still open. Ie. not yet cured - still hospitalized (trouble cases) or at home (milder or just early stage cases). So, the naive and rounded down 3% sounds way off. Are there some stats for cured?
I hope this shit does not mutate to something worse.
Dia on 11/3/2020 at 13:00
I work part-time in a retail store and I'm disgusted by the amount of hoarding going on. Otherwise sensible people are showing up at our checkout registers with two or even three shopping carts overloaded with cases of water, hand sanitizer, toilet paper and cleaning supplies. Afaic, those people are deplorably selfish and I wish our store would establish an anti-hoarding policy (like, only two cases of water per customer, etc.). I've had my ass chewed out by other irate customers, like one young woman who was pissed off because our store was out of baby wipes and her 6 month old baby had diarrhea, or because all one little old lady wanted was one fucking 12 pack of bottled water so she could take her meds (she said her tap water was too 'dirty' to drink). Yep, I'm getting yelled and cursed at like it's all MY fault, while having to watch those with money to burn hoard everything from water to baby wipes, ffs. Omg, I am SO regretting my decision to get a part-time job in retail rather than go back to the office full-time. *smh*
heywood on 11/3/2020 at 14:18
Quote Posted by zombe
I wonder, what is the real death rate for the infection?
(
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd)
Reports 118K cases with 4K deaths - this gives a lower bound of over 3%. However, how many of thous cases are still open. Ie. not yet cured - still hospitalized (trouble cases) or at home (milder or just early stage cases). So, the naive and rounded down 3% sounds way off. Are there some stats for cured?
I hope this shit does not mutate to something worse.
Check out this map, it includes recovered cases:
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https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6) https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
The death rate is going up for the reasons you mentioned. The early estimates were 2%. The WHO estimate I saw yesterday was 3.4%. Just going by the current WHO case count, it's 3.6% (4290/118162).
Probably the best estimate comes from China, where the rate of new infections has slowed to a trickle.
Current stats from China:
80967 confirmed cases
61653 recovered
3162 deaths
The lower bound assuming no further deaths is 3162/80967 = 3.9%
A better estimate is probably 3162/(61653+3162) = 4.9%
Iran is reporting a large number of recovered cases and the infection rate seems to be slowing there. Their numbers are 9000 total, 2959 recovered, and 354 deaths. So the death rate there could end up around 10%. It's too early to say anything about Europe, North America, or the rest of the world.
A lot depends on whether hospitals can keep up with the case load. In places where the health care system is overloaded and the seriously ill can't get the best available treatment, the death rate will be higher. In places with a relatively small number of isolated cases (usually travel related), the death rate will be lower. So I suspect Italy will have some bad numbers and Singapore will have good numbers.
Tony_Tarantula on 11/3/2020 at 14:29
Quote Posted by Starker
You mean by standards of food that gives you food poisoning?
Ever been to an authentic Mexican restaurant? Good shit but you'll pay the price later.
