lowenz on 29/6/2020 at 12:51
Quote Posted by faetal
You are not qualified to suppose why other people are driven to science. Your speculation is not interesing, except maybe to yourself.
You talk of people imagining enemies, while you are railing against some archetype of scientists as though they are somehow fungible.
People in glass houses...
What? I'm "NOT QUALIFIED" to think something? Are you QUALIFIED to say that what I'm freely saying is "not interesting"? LOL! :D
-> (
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nobel_disease)
Of course they're "not real scientists", right? Or something like "TRAITORS!!!1111" :p
Sulphur on 29/6/2020 at 12:57
Quote Posted by Tocky
Dude I've never called for anyone to be banned in my life.
That's him broadstroking the way I clashed with him a while ago and dolloping that onto you. I did call for him to shut up when he started speculating (hyperventilating) about aspects of the virus at the beginning of the pandemic in ways that were well unhelpful, so he's still a bit sore about that. I'm not, but I won't let that stop him from going after whatever logical fallacy is the flavour du jour (a unilateral tu quoque, apparently), because he's on my ignore list.
In any event, you can ignore that specific bit, it's meant for me.
lowenz on 29/6/2020 at 13:07
Quote Posted by Sulphur
but I won't let that stop him from going after whatever logical fallacy is the flavour du jour (a unilateral tu quoque, apparently), because he's on my ignore list.
In any event, you can ignore that specific bit, it's meant for me.
And of course as always you need to tell everyone that :D
It's not "meant for" to attack you, it's simply evident (your crusader attitude).
Tocky on 29/6/2020 at 13:36
Quote Posted by lowenz
It pisses me off royal when people don't have truth as the ultimate goalNot my words, man.
"Truth" is a phantom, "truth
S" are simply a product of our knowledge ability and nothing more.
If you believe that then go jump off a building. You will find a hard truth waiting at the bottom.
Judith on 29/6/2020 at 14:18
Quote Posted by lowenz
What? I'm "NOT QUALIFIED" to think something? Are you QUALIFIED to say that what I'm freely saying is "not interesting"? LOL! :D
-> (
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nobel_disease)
Of course they're "not real scientists", right? Or something like "TRAITORS!!!1111" :p
No, you're not qualified to talk about science or academic disciplines, because every person here who has at least some academic or professional experience there can see that you're a layman trying way too hard to look smart.
I was never a scientist, and it's been over fifteen years since my philosophy years at uni. But even with most of that knowledge gone, especially names and dates, I still remember the work culture, the structure of this field, and at least some of the conclusions in areas that interested me, thanks to hours of regular studying and working with the subject matter. And even with this shadow of my former proficiency I can see you've got nothing but an anecdotal mess of surface-level knowledge.
Which is okay, as long as you don't try to talk with someone who actually knows their stuff as if you were an expert (which is something you already did several times now).
So generally +1 to what faetal said.
Gryzemuis on 29/6/2020 at 14:44
I've not been following this in detail. Can someone give me a quick summary of what Lowenz said that is ridiculous, and why ? Just 3 or 4 sentences. That should be enough. I'll then go an read previous posts to fill in the details myself. TIA.
faetal on 29/6/2020 at 16:02
Quote Posted by lowenz
What? I'm "NOT QUALIFIED" to think something? Are you QUALIFIED to say that what I'm freely saying is "not interesting"? LOL! :D
-> (
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nobel_disease)
Of course they're "not real scientists", right? Or something like "TRAITORS!!!1111" :p
You do know that Nobel laureates make up a vanishingly small % of scientists yes?
As I said to Nbohr, you are free to say what you please, but no one has to take you seriously.
On the serious-o-meter, you're reading about the same level as a dog wearing a cape.
faetal on 29/6/2020 at 16:03
Quote Posted by Gryzemuis
I've not been following this in detail. Can someone give me a quick summary of what Lowenz said that is ridiculous, and why ? Just 3 or 4 sentences. That should be enough. I'll then go an read previous posts to fill in the details myself. TIA.
I don't think anyone really knows what lowenz has been saying. Possibly not even lownez.
faetal on 29/6/2020 at 17:07
Quote Posted by Tocky
If you believe that then go jump off a building. You will find a hard truth waiting at the bottom.
This is the same argument I used when people drop that philosophy undergrad "what even is reality?" bullshit into a conversation (usually as a means of trying to hamstring any scientific / reasoned input).
Anyone who genuinely believes that reality is wholly subjective and aren't invested in any one reality in particular, should put their money where their mouth is and down a cup of bleach to prove it.
Unless they think there is a decent chance that the consequences might be, I don't know, real or something.
[EDIT] Holy fuck, sorry for triple-posting. Slow news day I guess.
Starker on 29/6/2020 at 19:15
Ah yes, the Camus school of thought.
