Sulphur on 23/6/2020 at 18:43
In the interest of a wider perspective, here's some charts from a series of surveys in the UK on the covid-19 situation and attendant conspiracy theories, with a few callouts on the role of the media in all of this:
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https://www.kcl.ac.uk/policy-institute/assets/covid-conspiracies-and-confusions.pdf) https://www.kcl.ac.uk/policy-institute/assets/covid-conspiracies-and-confusions.pdf
At least the Covid-19 5G gang's only 8% of the people surveyed. Small mercies.
nbohr1more on 23/6/2020 at 20:07
Quote Posted by faetal
No, just Americans who support Trump. This is the conceit I mentioned. You think this whole pandemic is somehow about you.
I am not a Trump supporter.
I just don't want to be killed by his foes or "cheer them on" while they release bio-weapons, cause race riots, coordinate with North Korea to threaten nuclear war,
and whatever other foul plans they cook up to keep from being prosecuted for what was revealed in the Wikileaks releases.
Renzatic on 23/6/2020 at 20:09
This one group of dastardly dudes really get around, don't they?
nbohr1more on 23/6/2020 at 20:14
Quote Posted by Renzatic
This one group of dastardly dudes really get around, don't they?
The DNC leaks literally had a "plan of action" that spelled out causing a nuclear event in a major city to "stop Trump".
Renzatic on 23/6/2020 at 22:19
But wouldn't they be wiping out millions of their own voters by doing such?
I guess they just don't care. They're that evil.
faetal on 23/6/2020 at 22:48
Quote Posted by nbohr1more
I am not a Trump supporter.
I just don't want to be killed by his foes or "cheer them on" while they release bio-weapons, cause race riots, coordinate with North Korea to threaten nuclear war,
and whatever other foul plans they cook up to keep from being prosecuted for what was revealed in the Wikileaks releases.
Doesn't matter. Thinking a global pandemic is somehow focussed around US politics is the most US-centric thing I've heard this year.
Do you want to link to relevant wikileaks and reference which specific parts back up your insane claims? Or did you get it from (
www.realtruththatisntdeepstatelies.org) and just assume that they exist?
faetal on 23/6/2020 at 22:55
Quote Posted by PigLick
like seriously faetal comes out of hibernation, only to argue with this numbnuts? IS THAT REALY THE AMERICA YOU WANT
I woke up to post news about the Demon's Souls remake. Got drawn into this fuckery because science is my thang.
Renzatic on 23/6/2020 at 23:18
Quote Posted by faetal
Do you want to link to relevant wikileaks and reference which specific parts back up your insane claims? Or did you get it from (
www.realtruththatisntdeepstatelies.org) and just assume that they exist?
That's exactly what he does. He picks shit up from his "trusted sources" he talks to at wherethefuckever, and pieces them together to form his grand overarching conspiracy theory.
We can argue about Wikileak's motives, allegiances, and interpretations all we want, but they do post real leaked documents from actual sources. If there was actual evidence that the DNC had a contingency plan to nuke a US city in order to pin the blame on Trump, every single conservative talking head out there would be bringing it up on live TV every chance they get.
faetal on 24/6/2020 at 00:57
Exactly. That's how we do that shit in grown up dialectic:
[Claim]: [link containing evidence] [At least a paragraph explaining why the source backs up the claim]
No doubt he'll come back with some variation on "google it" / "look it up for yourself" / "do your research, it's all there", despite the onus being on him to back up his claims.
Renzatic on 24/6/2020 at 01:21
Or it could've been some off the cuff sarcastic remark stated in an email, and now it's being used as PROOF POSITIVE THEY'RE ACTUALLY PLANNING TO DO THIS THING!
Or it's something that's been grossly stretched out of proportion, like...
"Goddamn Girl Scouts keep coming to my house trying to coerce me into buying their overpriced chocolate covered sawdust cookies."
"Fuck those kids! They're obnoxious!"
LOOK! LOOK AT WHAT THEY JUST SAID! "FUCK THOSE KIDS!" PROOF POSITIVE THE DNC IS RUNNING SECRET PEDOPHILE RINGS TO PROSTITUTE ANNOYING CHILDREN! IT'S ON WIKILEAKS!