Renzatic on 9/3/2020 at 23:06
Be gentle with him, JK. He's foreign too.
Anyway, I don't think we're gonna see a full on nationwide quarantine here. It's one of the advantages of living in a big ole place with a relatively small amount of people in it. What'll happen are a few big cities like New York and Seattle will get locked down, then we'll have a small panic as everyone rushes to buy root beer or something equally stupid and arbitrary, while the people in the rural areas will take up sucking on urinal cakes to pwn the libtards. Three months from now, 75% of the population will have died from diabetes and hepatitis, and we'll have to start a new government based upon the teachings of Scientology.
heywood on 9/3/2020 at 23:46
True Renz. We're going to end up with a patchwork of responses that vary by situation, region, and metropolitan area, which include various restrictions up to what Italy has done.
But I still think we'll end up better off than Europe, because even if our national political leadership is inept, the federal agencies that are responsible for coordinating a response still have their crisis playbooks, most of their staff, facilities, stores. This is one of those (few) situations where I can see the point of federalism.
demagogue on 10/3/2020 at 00:00
We can at least get better numbers for R0 and doubling this month, law of large numbers and all.
When I posted my link on March 6 the number of cases had just hit 100K. A 6 day doubling rate (unimpeded) would mean it'd hit 1 million in just over a month. It went up 15K in the last 3-4 days, although there might be a lag there or data not getting out, but it's still nowhere near doubling. That's closer to a 3-4 week doubling rate. Still nothing to sneeze about.
I want to check it at the end of March or first week of April, then we'll really know. If it cracks a million, then that next month is when it'd go big time.
Tony_Tarantula on 10/3/2020 at 02:32
So now the CCP's outlets are saying that the US needs to apologize to China and they're threatening to cut off medical supplies to the US.
A lot of people have been warning for a long time that it's insane to depend so heavily on one country for products that we literally need to survive, especially when that country is in many ways hostile (such as militarily supporting insurgents that we're fighting).
Have we learned our lesson yet? Of course not. Are we going to demand any accountability to fix this? Of course not.
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But I still think we'll end up better off than Europe, because even if our national political leadership is inept, the federal agencies that are responsible for coordinating a response still have their crisis playbooks, most of their staff, facilities, stores. This is one of those (few) situations where I can see the point of federalism.
As someone who has worked in and with some of those federal agencies, I think you have a hell of a lot of blind faith in the competence of those agencies. They couldn't even get their shit together well enough to handle a regional hurricane...not once but MULTIPLE times well after they should have learned their lesson. What makes you think they're ready to handle a national level crisis?
My general impression has been that a lot of the managers in them are "Soviet style" ones where their #1 priority is bullshitting enough good numbers so that their boss likes them. A lot of the rest just aren't that competent individuals.
John T Reed (West Point grad and Harvard MBA) gets into it a bit here ((
https://johntreed.com/blogs/john-t-reed-s-blog-about-military-matters/69792323-process-orientation-versus-results-orientation)) but most of those "agencies" are full of people who are in an extremely process oriented mindset as opposed to a results oriented one. They've gotten to where they are by rigidly following process with zero (visible) defects and by playing office politics well. He's mostly talking about career officers there but his comments are true to some extent in any large bureaucracy whether government or corporate.
Nicker on 10/3/2020 at 03:44
Quote Posted by jkcerda
we already have far too much communism, that communism is how we are able to afford bombing the shit out of countries with brown people......
100%, dyed in the wool non sequitur
Harvester on 10/3/2020 at 12:41
Here in the Netherlands, in one of our 12 provinces, called Noord-Brabant, the infection rate is the highest. In that province, the government asks you to stay at home even with mild health complaints (like you could also just have a cold, but stay home just to be on the safe side). People are asked to work from their homes if their job allows it.
In my company (in another province with a lower infection rate) all developers are now asked to take our work laptops home every day after work. This way, if you have mild symptoms where you can still work but don't want to risk infecting others so you choose to self-quarantine - or a step worse, when the government asks us in our province to work from home as they do in Noord-Brabant, we can work from home so our productivity doesn't come to a halt. I hope it doesn't come to that, for one thing I hate Skype meetings but mostly I just hope it won't become a pandemic with lots of casualties among the elderly and people with existing health issues.
lowenz on 10/3/2020 at 13:26
Same here.
But we're going to the full stop of every activity here in Lombardy. Maybe this same day.
jkcerda on 10/3/2020 at 14:15
buddy with family in Spain says they are looking to lock up the country as well.
