Nicker on 28/5/2020 at 01:37
No indeed we would not have. JK, of all the stupid, insulting things you have said, this is the most blatant, pathetic and trollificent. Pure, unabashed projection.
No previous president would have personally recommended any medical treatment without at least consulting their chief health officers first. They would have referred the media to the medical professionals in charge of the response and only repeated specific medical advice to reinforce its importance. They would also have included information about the risks. I doubt that even Bush Jr. would have made as clumsy an error as Trump did in this case.
Renzatic on 28/5/2020 at 02:41
Quote Posted by Nicker
No indeed we would not have. JK, of all the stupid, insulting things you have said, this is the most blatant, pathetic and trollificent. Pure, unabashed projection.
I'll tell you why the liberals or MSM wouldn't hype it up if Obama did something similar. It's because no other president in the entire history of the United States, Democrat or Republican, would be so goddamn stupid that they'd call some random drug a game changing cure, the greatest achievement in the history of medicine, right after seeing a talking head hype it up in a 3 minute segment on a Fox News talk show. Nor would they continue to hype it up just to save face, even as the evidence mounts against it.
The whole hydroxychloroquine affair isn't a liberal vs. conservative issue here. It's fucking stupid vs. not fucking stupid. You can either be fucking stupid, or not be fucking stupid. Take your pick, but don't go whining if people call you fucking stupid if you pick the fucking stupid side.
Tocky on 28/5/2020 at 03:00
Uncle JW used to love to travel. Once he even went across country from California to Mississippi on a motorcycle only a few months after a hip replacement. He sent us post cards and sometimes we went to see the places he recommended. They were always great places. Just last year it was Royal Gorge, Colorado. Though he was my wife's uncle, me and him got on great, we traded books, we visited the best damn car museum in the US, he always wanted us to come out so he could take us on a tour of Universal Studios which was near his house. It won't happen now. Not long back he got a Leukemia diagnosis and I told Rena we better go soon. Then last month he got Covid 19. He fought it for quite a while and I had begun to hope he would pull through. I don't want to see him in a coffin and his kids I didn't much care for though they were closer to my age. He was always a happy guy. Jesus he had big teeth and didn't mind showing them off. I prefer to recall him laughing.
Sulphur on 28/5/2020 at 03:17
I hope that's the last one. No one deserves any more of this.
Good on NZ being part of the very few countries who've modelled how decisive and intelligent action needs to be done in a situation like this.
Starker on 28/5/2020 at 03:41
Congrats, New Zealand.
Unfortunately, in Europe, we botched the response badly. We knew about the first cases in January (which means the virus was here already weeks before, and retesting old samples from December has confirmed this), but many governments continued downplaying the severity of the threat and allowing mass gatherings. It wasn't until mid March, when we were already the hotspot for the virus, that lockdowns were put in place.
bob_doe_nz on 28/5/2020 at 03:47
Problem is that as soon as we open our borders we're risking a second wave of infections. And there is the risk that someone from Oz could be asymptomatic. Especially as we're trying to get the trans-tasman bubble re-engaged again.
Nicker on 28/5/2020 at 06:06
Stay the course, NZ. Reinfection from certain careless neighbours is the biggest threat here in Canada too.
I live on an island so we have been well insulated. The rest of BC is in pretty good shape but eastern Canada is still a hot zone thanks in large part to Rob Ford, the Trump Of The North, although he at least has the decency to be contrite and actually chastised the thousands of people (and by people I mean idiots) who packed the public parks this past weekend. Thankfully transmission in outdoor spaces is not as severe but there will be a new spike.
Gryzemuis on 28/5/2020 at 07:25
The US reach 100k deaths yesterday. I was wrong, I predicted 100k around May 20th. It was May 27th. If this trend continues, the US won't reach 500k by the end of the year. Only 200k-300k.
Good news in NL. We have the number of deaths and the number of new hospitalizations down to ~10-20 per day. We're slowly opening up. I can notice that when I go into town (I live in the middle of nowhere), the tension is gone completely. Most people are trying to keep their 1.5m distance. A bit. Sometimes. But the atmosphere is a lot more relaxed than 2 months ago. We got plans to open up stuff slowly (restaurants, terraces, gyms, more shops, etc).
Let's hope we keep this under control. I'm very very good at self-isolation, but I rather not be in another 3-month lock-down.