Renzatic on 26/4/2020 at 04:12
Quote Posted by Pyrian
What really gets me about all the increases-in-disinfectant-exposure-cases stories is the
baseline disinfectant exposure statistics.
Comeon. Haven't we all been curious about bleach tasting the same as it smells?
lowenz on 26/4/2020 at 07:27
Can't be real :/
This is moronity (is this the word?) on a maximum level........
Tony_Tarantula on 26/4/2020 at 17:09
These briefings-come-Trump rallies are truly cringeworthy. Really awkward watching Trump try to get his chief medical people to lie about being misquoted and Coronavirus being with us in the Fall. Dr. Birx struggling with “creative tattooing” was a bit of comedy relief right out of an SNL skit. Also funny watching Trump throw Kemp under the bus.
These doctors dance on the edge for all of us trying to get the truth out knowing if they enrage King Donald with a truth he doesn't like, they're gone and replaced by a Fox News personality.
If anyone doubts Donald's Narcissistic Personality Disorder, consider that he actually said, “Taking very special care of our ... seniors, other than me. Nobody wants to take care of me.”
He didn't create the virus but his inaction, chaos and confusion, denial and downplaying got more Americans killed than necessary... and he's going to do it again in the Fall.
Meanwhile ... the governors Republican and Democrat still don't have enough goddamn test kits.
Harvester on 26/4/2020 at 21:58
Short update from the Netherlands: Here we have this thing called an 'intelligent lockdown'. No gatherings of more than 2 people in a public place unless part of the same family, bars/restaurants/cinemas are closed, so are barber shops and other businesses that revolve around physical contact, the football season and other sports events are cancelled, festivals season isn't going to happen this summer, dentists only do emergency procedures, everything who can works from home, no visits to people in homes for the elderly, mentally ill etc. Recently the rules are loosened a bit, daycare facilities and primary schools will reopen after the May holiday and high schools will reopen in June, the youth can go to their sport clubs but only recreational (no competitions against other clubs) etc. This has been made possible thanks to recent statistics of the amount of people dying of the virus, the number of IC beds in use and number of new COVID hospital admissions. These numbers gradually improve thanks to people being cautious and following the rules.
People are hoping for more, they are dying to get a haircut, get a beer with their mates at a bar, go to the gym again, visit churches and mosques, see their loved ones at seniors' homes, etc. Also, many regular medical procedures were put on hold and you can't keep doing that for people with cancer or heart conditions and such. While I'm starting to figure out that I'm a huge loner who can do this social distancing thing pretty easily (it helps that my job is very well manageable from home), I certainly sympathize with all these things. We should also realize that people with dementia and mental handicaps do not understand why their loved ones aren't coming to visit anymore, this is really tragic in some cases. Also, let's not forget that for some people home is not a safe place when everyone in the family is stuck there 24-7. Some people are now jobless, relational tensions start to rise, and for some kids school was a safe haven that was suddenly taken away from them. Even some formerly stable families are losing it. Furthermore, bars, restaurants and local stores and businesses are in danger of going bankrupt. Supermarkets are doing fine but many mom and pop stores and even national retail chains are not.
But we must remain responsible. We had a weekend with nice weather and we're starting to see that the parks and shopping areas and centers, and hardware stores and gardening centers and such, are becoming way too crowded again and people are not taking the 1.5 meter distance thing that seriously anymore. Now that the numbers start to improve people are becoming lax with the precautions. If this continues, the statistics will start taking a turn for the worse and people can kiss their hopes of new liberties goodbye for the foreseeable future. If people want to regain those liberties, they must restrain themselves and act responsibly within the liberties and restrictions we now have. It's for their own good but some people don't seem to understand or they just can't control themselves. I do sympathize with people's social needs but some people aren't thinking clearly and I find that pretty frustrating. As an introvert I'm having an easier time with this than many other people, but I too want everything to return to normal, but people acting irresponsibly will just delay that from happening while the body count rises...
Renzatic on 27/4/2020 at 05:45
So taking the above, and adding in this...
Inline Image:
https://i.imgur.com/TlgDdeP.jpgApparently Trump supporters aren't too swooft with the maffs.
SubJeff on 27/4/2020 at 11:03
Quote Posted by lowenz
After you've solved (well, contained/reduced) the inflammation altering the blood vessel behaviour.
Otherwise there's no use, you keep pushing air in the lungs but there's simply no space for the O2/CO2 exchange (the interstitial pneumonia is due to multiple factors, ONE being the hyperemia+vessel expansion not only the endothelial direct damage related to the virus replication)
In NY there's a 90% of deaths among the ICU patients.....it's simply abysmal.
If you can avoid the inflammation (->Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation) the pneumonia (=the part of the pneumonia-like state not strictly related to the virus) maybe can be avoided too.
But the timings are really tighten up!
I'd relay this information to my ICU colleagues, but I've never really liked being laughed out of the coffee room.
Are you making phone calls to all the Italian hospitals?
