Renzatic on 24/4/2020 at 17:17
Quote Posted by Starker
And last but not least, just look at the video. Does this look like an actual, proven therapy to you?
It looks like one of those internal sales pitches/Powerpoint presentations you see from hospitals, and Cedars-Sinai is playing a part in peer reviewing it, so I wouldn't write it off outright.
Renzatic on 24/4/2020 at 17:21
Quote Posted by jkcerda
difference is that unlike YOU I found out wtf he was referring to after watching the video, I posted the video and you STILL bitched about it w/o watching it, TDS is real.
You got me on not watching it before commenting, I'll give you that.
But we've know UV lights can kill viruses and bacteria for decades now, and neither Trump nor his advisors on site mentioned anything about new experimental therapies involving intubating a filtered UVA light into the lungs. I dismissed it out of hand, because you have a tendency to lamely defend Trump here no matter what.
jkcerda on 24/4/2020 at 17:27
you mean you dismissed it because the TDS got to you first??..
trump is a fucking idiot saying shit the way he did, there are dumb fucks out there that will try stupid shit just because he said it, like the AZ couple that took the fish cleaner because the word Hydroxy was there. then again if you are STUPID enough to inject bleach or other shit into your body because a world wrestling federation hall of famer said it could help by all means earn your fucking darwin award. I do think some of you are secretly afraid of people you know try this shit and earn the award.
Starker on 24/4/2020 at 17:27
Quote Posted by Renzatic
It looks like one of those internal sales pitches/Powerpoint presentations you see from hospitals, and Cedars-Sinai is playing a part in peer reviewing it, so I wouldn't write it off outright.
A cursory googling shows they are a shady company that's described as Corona-portunist and whose biggest claim to fame so far has been distributing faulty tests:
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https://seekingalpha.com/article/4338518-aytu-bioscience-corona-portunist-40-downside)
Summary
* Aytu BioSciences' shares have unjustifiably risen on the company's announcement of a licensing deal to distribute a COVID-19 test in the U.S.
* Aytu is selling the test under emergency FDA guidance that I believe will revert to a stricter standard once more tests reach the market.
* Aytu has limited special knowledge or knowhow in diagnostic testing; it has licensed this test from a third-party manufacturer and is merely a U.S. distributor.
* Aytu has loudly announced progress on sourcing and receiving its diagnostic tests; information on sales and order backlog is less clear.
* Aytu's tangled capital structure reflects a tendency to dilute shareholders via obscure transactions.
I believe companies that have recently announced gigantic operational pivots into Coronavirus responses are good candidates for sale or short sale. One such company is Aytu BioSciences (AYTU), a very active Coronavirus announcer with a suspect historical product portfolio and a head-spinning capital structure.
On March 10, shares of Aytu rocketed from $0.35 to around $1.50 on the company's announcement it had secured exclusive license to distribute a IgG/IgM Rapid Test for Coronavirus in the U.S. Amid an acceleration in fear about the pandemic, Aytu's test captured investors' imaginations with the promise of a 2-10 minute result reporting time and while-you-wait, point of care testing. What investors may be overlooking is that the test has a clinical weakness: it produces false negatives; and a positive test result does not necessarily mean a patient is actively transmitting the disease. These attributes make the test vulnerable to competition as rival companies large and small work to respond to the pandemic.
Aytu's test originates from a Chinese manufacturer and has already racked up a spotty regulatory record: According to an NBC News report the test - which is produced by Aytu partners Zhejiang Orient Gene Biotech and its subsidiary Healgen - is not approved by China's regulators
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According to NBC News, China has now banned export of the test, and Zhejiang told NBC that it has "stopped exporting the tests and told its clients that it did not have the necessary license." (Aytu has issued a press release that addresses this reporting. CEO Josh Disbrow said in the release, "I am excited to say we're in the final stages of securing yet another IgG/IgM antibody rapid test for U.S. distribution. This test is already approved by China's NMPA, is being regularly exported from China, and has strong clinical performance.")
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Renzatic on 24/4/2020 at 17:31
Quote Posted by jkcerda
you mean you dismissed it because the TDS got to you first??..
I think it's more your attitude. Usually whenever I see people tossing around phrases like TDS, I tune them out.
jkcerda on 24/4/2020 at 17:33
Quote Posted by Renzatic
I think it's more your attitude. Usually whenever I see people tossing around phrases like TDS, I tune them out.
there was nothing in my post, other than the video. have a good weekend.
Renzatic on 24/4/2020 at 17:35
Quote Posted by Starker
A cursory googling shows they are a shady company that's described as Corona-portunist and whose biggest claim to fame so far has been distributing faulty tests...
Yeah, well I'm taking everything with a grain of salt these days. So many things can be spun so many ways, I'll just wait and see if hospitals adopt it or not.
I'm not emotionally invested in it either way.
Renzatic on 24/4/2020 at 17:37
Quote Posted by jkcerda
there was nothing in my post, other than the video. have a good weekend.
Previous posting history. You're tendency to be accusatory, ever on the attack, all usually backed up some pretty lame defenses to your justifications of such means that any good point you may have gets lost in the noise.
jkcerda on 24/4/2020 at 18:12
pretty much what all of you do here regarding anything trump says.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/cnn-moves-headquarters-underground-after-trump-says-the-sun-is-good?utm_content=bufferca895&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer&fbclid=IwAR37AXjtHQtiWjVzQvRh49nVo-c67ida2fk1Bzg8O1gPJXWzSv3s_TDUBjw)
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CNN Moves Headquarters Underground After Trump Says The Sun Is Good
funny as fuck.
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I'm with jkcerda on this one to an extent. In my county there have been 396 confirmed cases and 36 deaths, out of a population of ~600,000. Statewide, it's 2,200/2 million. I thought the point of the stay at home orders was to "flatten the curve" and not overwhelm the healthcare systems, but the curve never really even started here. I'm a nurse in a ~500 bed hospital (current census < 100) and get daily updates about the number of covid-19 patients in the hospital. It's never exceeded 20 including those under investigation/not determined; even if every one of them was in the ICU (they're not), it would leave 16 free ICU beds. The 26-bay PACU I work in was converted to a stand-by covid unit, with 6 bays reserved for actual recovery. The hospital used to average 40 surgeries a day during normal times. Now it's an average of 7. Thankfully, the hospital system has voluntarily said it will make up for lost hours of all staff during the pandemic, paying the difference between actual hours worked a week and the average of hours worked a week between 1/1 and 3/1, provided that you are willing to work wherever they tell you. For PACU nurses that means going to ICU if needed, but for the majority of the OR RNs and floor RNs that means folding laundry, cleaning, working in shipping and receiving, or just staying home. I think a New York City-style response in Overland Park, Kansas was a little bit of an overreaction and I think that's the same across large swaths of this country.
I'm all for being cautious. Mandate masks in public. Probably still smart to forbid concerts, sporting events, and other mass gatherings. But I think you could safely open up a lot of stores, restaurants, movie theaters, etc. and get the economy moving a little bit with some pretty minor adjustments--separate tables more at restaurants, block off 2/3 of movie theater seats, maintain distancing requirements for queues, require masks etc. Curve's flattened, here, and we're in no danger of overwhelming our hospitals. Loosen up a bit.
THANK YOU.
