Pyrian on 17/4/2020 at 03:47

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60% of the sailors on that carrier that tested positive for COVID-19 had no symptoms.

bob_doe_nz on 17/4/2020 at 10:08

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What is your coughing like?

demagogue on 17/4/2020 at 13:06

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Well I should probably report my case now for everyone. I didn't earlier because it was very uncertain to me what was even going on.

So starting from the night of March 29, Day 3 of quarantine for me, my heart was struck with severe spells of arrhythmia. A week later when I got it monitored, I learned my heart rate was (at that time, a week later) shooting up to over 120bmp while I was sleeping for spells from 2 to 10 minutes that would wake me up, but that was already after it had gotten much better. In the first few nights it was completely erratic, I could feel it shoot up in rate but a every third or forth beat would draaaaag, and my chest felt like the biggest case of butterflies. I would have spells for about 10 minutes at a time, then die down until maybe 15 minutes later and it'd start up again, like that all night long for about 14 nights straight.

When I was going through a spell, I could literally feel my brain and body were not getting oxygen, which is literally the worst feeling ever. My hands and feet became frigid, my mind would go into feverish "life flashing before my eyes" visions, I would start to black out, and I'd be struck with extreme dizziness and nausea. The second night I felt I was within an inch of my life when it happened a few times. I actually walked to the hospital (I think I thought standing up and walking was making it feel better, and better than calling an ambulance and waiting), but anyway along the way it struck so hard in one spell, if my heart didn't completely stop it was so erratic that blood wasn't getting anywhere, I collapsed, and everything basically went dark and I thought well this is it. I've lived a good life; I did the best I could, and I was at peace and contented. Then the nausea hit so hard I was trying to throw up, except instead of vomit I had one very hard lung-expunging cough, and my heart started again on a regular cycle. I'm happy that little reset button was built in there. (Fett later explained it and a lot of other things to me. He's been a good friend a guide for me through this.)

That happened about two other times, and that was really the worst of it. By the time I actually got to the hospital, I had to pay $80 just to enter (it was still like 5 in the morning), and they said if I could make it to morning I wouldn't have to pay that, but I needed to get a reference from another clinic first. So by that time, I was starting to feel much better and the heart clinic across from my apartment was going to open. So then I walked to the heart clinic. (Also I didn't actually want to go into the hospital if I could help it, because of the possible corona cases in there, and thought the clinic would be safer anyway, and it's closer, and it's a specialized cardiologist instead of a generic hospital doctor.) So anyway I went to the clinic. But by the time I got there the spells were completely gone (they only came at night) and they couldn't measure any problem. So that's when we scheduled for me to wear a Holter monitoring device overnight. But by the time I got that scheduled it was already almost a week later, and the spells had subsided somewhat. But they were still happening and I got what it looks like on paper now. Over the next 12 days it got progressively better, although slowly. Almost exactly 2 weeks later was the last bad spell, and since then I don't really notice it, although I still feel there's something not quite right.

So, I thought at the time surely it's the virus. But over the next two weeks the other symptoms didn't really develop... but because I was paying such close attention, I did notice they developed in a very minor form. I had a slight fever, a little diarrhea, just a touch of congestion, but the really telling thing was everything tasted like a dank 2 week old used tea bag (I didn't notice at first because I didn't have any appetite, but it started to come back a week later). Because I wasn't sure it was the virus, I was extra vigilant since of course the worst thing would be to get it in that condition. But since then there have also been articles coming out speculating if the virus attacks the heart (and kidneys) directly. Now I think my case probably was the virus, because the timing of it (day 3 of quarantine, lasting two weeks) and set of other conditions (the other symptoms in a minor form) and the articles saying heart arrhythmia is a symptom, that all came together in a way that makes the probability rather low for it to be a completely independent (a mysterious other virus or condition lasting 2 weeks that attacks the heart) coincidentally timed to now.

That made me think my case was important for science, since one of the big debates right now is if the heart is attacked directly or if its problems are derivative from the other conditions, a debate we've had in this very thread. I thought my case is important because, since I didn't really have the other symptoms, the arrhythmia should be directly caused by the virus. So it's answering the $64,000 question they're having, and I have my heart monitor results that would probably be really useful for them to know how exactly it attacks the heart. I asked to get tested, but the problem is that their policy is a person can only get tested if they show the traditional symptoms, and I didn't. Now that it's almost 3 weeks later, I wonder if I would even test positive at this point.

I can say I'm relieved that my heart symptoms have gotten significantly better now. I'm upset that it may still have left permanent damage (time will tell), and if it did, I upset with the negligence of the Chinese government in letting this spread in the first place, and they should probably be responsible and pay for the lifetime of medical bills I may have now from this thing (time will tell). It occurred to me that I might be relieved that I have antibodies now, but then articles came out that the antibodies aren't a guarantee of immunity, people were reacquiring it, and the cases of people catching the virus a second time happened most when their symptoms were light, and the virus was actually more lethal the 2nd time around because of the heart damage from the first round, and after everything I still can't be 100% sure that I even had the virus. So I am going under the working assumption that I didn't have it and am still susceptible and even in a risk category.

So that's been my story to date. It's still just been less than 3 weeks, so who's to say what's next? Be safe y'all. At least in my case, when this thing hits it comes hard out of nowhere and it doesn't take its time.

jkcerda on 17/4/2020 at 14:56

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source to the evidence you claim there is.

Nicker on 17/4/2020 at 16:16

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(https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/health/drug-hydroxychloroquine-french-study/?hpt=ob_blogfooterold) Here is some of that evidence reposted, jk.

(https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19-what-do-the-clinical-trials-tell-us/) And here's some more.

But by all means take your medical advice from Dr. Donny if you trust him more that the ex-spurts. Seriously, are you having some sort of episode? I have come to expect random expressions of stupidity from you but this seems to be a protracted case of aggressive denial of reality. HINT: Trump is not a medical professional, he's a con-artist and you are being conned.



Dema, stay safe and I strong.



Mind = boggled.