Renzatic on 12/4/2020 at 02:44
Holy crap!
Starker on 12/4/2020 at 04:16
Yeah, that's nearly the length of an ordinary German compound noun.
SubJeff on 12/4/2020 at 07:00
Didn't know you were Estonian. Very diverse bunch we are at TTLG. I've read and head a lot about the digital advances, which seem very cool to me. One of the fastest internets in the world, no? I find it weird that the Baltic states have such fast internet. My wife is Lithuanian so I've been a few times. Did you take part in the Baltic Way btw?
Very few Rona cases in Estonia. May it stay that way.
Gryzemuis on 12/4/2020 at 12:21
14 Days ago, 29 March, I asked the question:
Quote Posted by Gryzemuis
Who do you think will hit 20k deaths first ? I think all three countries have equal chance to be the winner.
Unfortunately we have a winner today.
29 March:
Italy - 92k infected, 10k deaths.
Spain - 79k infected, 6.5k deaths.
USA - 125k infected, 1k deaths.
2 April:
Italy - 111k infected, 13155 deaths.
Spain - 104k infected, 9387 deaths.
USA - 215k infected, 5068 deaths.
6 April:
Italy - 129k infected, 15887 deaths.
Spain - 135k infected, 13005 deaths.
USA - 338k infected, 9624 deaths.
10 April:
Italy - 144k infected, 18279 deaths.
Spain - 157k infected, 15843 deaths.
USA - 466k infected, 16478 deaths.
12 April:
Italy - 152k infected, 19468 deaths.
Spain - 166k infected, 16972 deaths.
USA - (
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/) 533k infected, 20580 deaths.
So in 14 days, Italy went from 10k to 19.5k, Spain went from 6.5k to 17k, and the US sprinted from 1k to 20k.
This is my last post regarding these counts.
I think (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnd9XOEoOv4&t=16s) we can predict who will hit 30k, 50k and 100k first. If those numbers will be reached. Let's hope they won't.
zombe on 12/4/2020 at 12:26
So, an Estonian, Russian and a Finn walk in a bar ...
five minutes later they all are dead drunk under the table. (how did you think this will go?)Quote Posted by SubJeff
One of the fastest internets in the world, no?
Don't know about the rest of the world in comparison, but the standard connection seems to be 100-1000Mbits. I live in rural area and have been on 100Mbits for eons now (which is the speed that seems to be widely available). Don't see any reason to get anything better as i only pay ~9 euros per month for it (which i think is much cheaper than the usual rate around here) and hardly ever use it fully.
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Did you (Stalker) take part in the Baltic Way btw?
In my case - i was. We happened to have our own transport and ended up having to drive quite far for our spot. People on radios at various spots were helping to direct the influx of people to nearest area with the thinnest line - found our suitable spot in woodland area in the middle of nowhere. Unsurprising from birds-eye view - there is an awful a lot of "middle of nowhere" around.
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Estonians also expect sincerity. As a Brit, I always greet people with the proverbial “how are you?” and expect a response similar to “good, thank you”. I am not genuinely asking about how the person is /.../
This. I can never get used to this. The insincerity of the question feels incredibly rude every time i hear it even though i know they are not trying to be an ass. Sure, i can mentally ignore it when confronted by it (a'la "dumb foreigner, ignore it"), but what i really would like to say is: "FFS! Please! Just cut the shit and (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXE8LdXzeHM) get on with it!"
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What's the culture like there? Is your country more socially distant by nature, or is there a celebratory culture too? That seems to affect how this virus proceeds.
Stalker already responded to that - and i agree with him. In regards to this pandemic - our culture probably helps. We are fine keeping distance and, i think, are more mindful of others and dangers our actions might impose on them (IF the dangers are understood properly, and that is a big IF. So, misjudgements and stupidity galore - like, probably, everywhere else too).
lowenz on 12/4/2020 at 13:59
100K? HELL NO, heparin is a life saver now that the basics of the infection->inflammation->wide microthrombosis process are known.
Gryzemuis on 12/4/2020 at 15:08
Quote Posted by lowenz
... heparin ...
Oh, you have found a new magic word.
Well, let's first wait and see how effective this is.
As said before, a few weeks of research, with a limited number of test-cases, will not give us the full truth immediately.
If my quick googling is correct, heparin seems to be a rather cheap drug. But you still need access to healthcare to get treatment with heparin.
Question one: how many people in the US do you think have no health-insurance ?
Question two: how many people in the US do you think had health-insurance, but have lost it, or will lose it soon, now that they are losing their jobs ?
Question three: how many of India's 1.3B people do you think will not have access to proper healthcare and thus heparin ?
Last question: how do you think treatment for the average population, and especially the poor population, will be in countries like Indonesia (267M people), Pakistan (212M), Brazil (209M), Nigeria (195M), Bangladesh (161M), Ethiopia (109M), DR Congo (84M), etc, etc ?
We have no vaccine. Are we sure we'll get a proper one some day ? We have no cure. The numbers in the US are now 2k+ deaths/day. And still slowly rising. To get an extra 80k deaths, we just need 40 more days. If the number of deaths/day keeps slowly rising, we need even fewer days. Heck, a possible scenario is that by mid-May, the US has 100k deaths. I don't know if that'll happen (nobody knows). I sure as hell hope it won't happen. But it seems still possible.
Do you still think no country will reach 100K covid-19 deaths ?
lowenz on 12/4/2020 at 15:15
New magic word?
It's clear since months that there's a vascular disease at work (see ACE2 receptors involved), the lungs are literally flooded by blood and water (causing an interstitial pneumonia, reducing the available volume for O2 and CO2 exchange between blood and air) as a byproduct of inflammation process. I'm saying this since my first posts here. Problem is which cases are eligible and which not.
lowenz on 12/4/2020 at 15:21
Quote Posted by Gryzemuis
Do you still think no country will reach 100K covid-19 deaths ?
No *western* country.
