lowenz on 30/3/2020 at 18:01
As you want, just wanted to show how the epidemic expands day by day here in Lombardy (as a show case for USA East Coast towns) vs the entire Italy.
South Italy is demographically and urbanistically totally different and it's not a good case for western states high populated regions.
zombe on 30/3/2020 at 18:25
Seems that situation in Italy is finally indeed improving.
New case count has been falling for days now - and not for lack of trying to find new cases. There was time when every test yielded 0.33 positives (around 17. march) with ~10K tests done on that day. Now it has been:
30th. 23329 tests -> 0.174 positive rate
29th. 24504 tests -> 0.213 positive rate
28th. 35447 tests -> 0.169 positive rate
27th. 33019 tests -> 0.179 positive rate
26th. 36615 tests -> 0.169 positive rate
25th. 27481 tests -> 0.190 positive rate (all earlier days saw less testing)
The decline in new cases is hence likely real (less positives found even though more testing is done than a week or so ago).
Positive rate has been over 0.22 from 24. march back to 13. march with couple of days going over 0.3. Based on the few other counties i have testing data available - they probably have not found the resources to do testing for everyone who has the symptoms (testing probably still largely for cases that need hospitalization) but getting there.
Active cases are still going up but much more slowly (countered by when people get declared recovered, based on whatever the local criteria is, or deaths). While the case count is still increasing - i hope that more milder cases from more testing and adaptation of the whole medical chain over time will compensate for that. Leading to less ICU needs and less deaths already. Also, as time goes on - the people most endangered are the ones to be most careful and cared for (isolated by friends and family) leading to decline of critical cases.
Let's hope this holds and even accelerates.
lowenz on 30/3/2020 at 19:03
Quote Posted by zombe
There was time when every test yielded 0.33 positives (around 17. march) with ~10K tests done on that day..
Thanks Mr. Zaia (an his re-election strategies) for this abomination. 70.000 test kits literally wasted.
Still now the virus is spreading in locked-down families and related physicians (mine is positive and now in quarantine with his pride).
Nicker on 30/3/2020 at 19:07
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
Since everyone agrees with Nancy Pelosi...
Since everyone agrees that Tony is a bottomless pit of hasty generalizations, inhabited by straw men, here's Tony tarring the entire forum with as wide a brush as possible.
EDIT: Oooops! Just saw Renz's ban warning. Oh well, I could use a break.
Tony_Tarantula on 30/3/2020 at 19:22
Quote Posted by Starker
Yeah, that was in February, over a month ago, when Lord Dampnut was still boasting what a great job he was doing on the virus, how the virus was totally under control, and that the 15 cases in the US would soon be going down close to zero.
Also, she wasn't suggesting that people should congregate, she was saying that people should be vigilant about the threat on the horizon, but that they shouldn't keep out of Chinatown right now just because Asians live there.
That's not an accurate representation of what she was saying. She also claimed to have full confidence in Dr. Fauci. The message was very clearly intended to convey “The virus isn't something to be afraid of” if you watch the full unedited clip on C-SPAN.
It's amazing watching the very same leaders who insisted this wasn't a big deal (while they Quitely sold off their shares) and that the important thing is to “prevent stigma” now turning around and accusing others of the same thing they just did.
By the way I am pretty sure I had this already in January. I live in a Chinese/Japanese expat neighborhood and there was a strange “flu” spreading through the area schools and families that came from Chinese kids returning from vacation and with symptoms that closely mirroring the JinPing Flu. It was so bad I had to call in sick days from a project where I was already working from home, was coughing so much it hurt to cough, and took about three weeks to recover when it's rare for something to put me down for more than a day or two.
Renzatic on 30/3/2020 at 19:42
Though at the time, she was pushing for a heavier federal response to the oncoming virus, while Trump was still doing the fuck-all minimum. There is that.
nickie on 30/3/2020 at 20:06
Quote Posted by ffox
Correction: for late 70s read mid 80s.
Dammit, freddy. Surely it was only a couple of years ago that you had your 76th. Where in hell's name does time go.
Starker on 30/3/2020 at 20:10
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
That's not an accurate representation of what she was saying.
It's a damn accurate representation of what she was saying -- she wasn't addressing how the US should prepare, she was sending a message that the SF Chinatown is not something to be afraid of. Here's the literal quote:
Quote:
We want to be vigilant about what might be on the horizon... what is out there in other places. We want to be careful with how we deal with it, but we do want to say to people, come to Chinatown. Here were are, again, careful, safe, and come join us.
And again, it was in the context of when there were very few cases in the US and before any of the social distancing was happening.
Renzatic on 30/3/2020 at 20:14
I'm beginning to discover how time speeds up the older you get.
I remember summer vacation when I was a kid. Those three months seemed to stretch on forever. The space between the last day of one school year, and the beginning of another was an entire life lived, a vast gulf of time you found yourself lost in.
Now? Three months ain't even a thing anymore.
