lowenz on 29/3/2020 at 12:59
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on it being the result of a biological weapon?
Weapon? It's already sure that it's a perfectly natural mutation+human adaptation.
No one makes a weapons that simply fails with 80% rate and with 20% death rate *ONLY* in the male population over 70 years.
Kill those badass 90 years old soldiers!
lowenz on 29/3/2020 at 13:10
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I do think it's very suspicious that their country is returning back to normal, far quicker than the rest of the world.
It's a communist (??????) dictatorship, not a "country".
heywood on 29/3/2020 at 13:35
What this pandemic shows me is that an effective bio-weapon doesn't need to be super-deadly.
Apparently, a coronavirus is enough to significantly disrupt and weaken a country. To weaponize it, an adversary would only need to find a way to covertly release it, and then they could deploy it at major public gatherings in multiple population centers simultaneously so it hits everywhere at once. Then wait for the chaos to peak, and launch widespread coordinated cyber attacks. While we're scrambling to deal with both crises at the same time, we'll be too weak and distracted to effectively respond to a surprise military attack.
Gryzemuis on 29/3/2020 at 13:38
Italy - 92k infected, 10k deaths.
Spain - 79k infected, 6.5k deaths.
USA - 125k infected, 1k deaths.
Who do you think will hit 20k deaths first ? I think all three countries have equal chance to be the winner.
And while we're talking doom. New York is getting real bad. But if you want to see something you've never seen before, watch Florida. I expect Florida to be the biggest shitshow on earth over the next 3 months.
They have all the ingredients to set records:
lots of elderly (high risk, obviously),
boomers have a high sense of entitlement ("I'm American, I can do what I want")
Republican population ("fuck the libtards, it's a hoax, I'll do what I want") (or am I exaggerating. I remember Florida was a swing-state ?)
Republican Governor and Republican politicians in charge ("money > people, please all act as if everything is fine")
Edit: That being said, my own country (nl) isn't doing very good either. We are nr 66 in population (17.5M). But we are nr 8 in covid-19 deaths (771 deaths). :(
lowenz on 29/3/2020 at 13:39
Quote Posted by heywood
What this pandemic shows me is that an effective bio-weapon doesn't need to be super-deadly.
Apparently, a coronavirus is enough to significantly disrupt and weaken a country. To weaponize it, an adversary would only need to find a way to covertly release it, and then they could deploy it at major public gatherings in multiple population centers simultaneously so it hits everywhere at once. Then wait for the chaos to peak, and launch widespread coordinated cyber attacks. While we're scrambling to deal with both crises at the same time, we'll be too weak and distracted to effectively respond to a surprise military attack.
A weapon that DOESN'T kill 25 years old grunts?
It's not a weapon, it's a fluke (of nature).
heywood on 29/3/2020 at 14:08
I predict the US will hit 20k deaths by the end of next weekend, one week from now. The death toll in Spain will be up there too. I don't know which will hit 20k first, but I doubt it will be Italy.
Our death toll has been relatively low so far because most of the infected here are still in the early stages of the disease and we haven't run out of hospital resources yet. New York has "only" 834 deaths so far, but that's going to explode like a bomb in 1-2 weeks.
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A weapon that DOESN'T kill 25 years old grunts?
It's not a weapon, it's a fluke (of nature).
A "battlefield" bioweapon that kills soldiers is a stupid idea.
There are much more effective ways of killing soldiers.
A bioweapon is a strategic weapon, designed to weaken a nation to the point where it can't effectively counter military action.
lowenz on 29/3/2020 at 14:42
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A "battlefield" bioweapon that kills soldiers is a stupid idea.
There are much more effective ways of killing soldiers.
A bioweapon is a strategic weapon, designed to weaken a nation to the point where it can't effectively counter military action.
If the soldiers and the chain of command are in place, the military response is ready.
SubJeff on 29/3/2020 at 14:58
The military will still be ready. Even if some of the leaders are taken out by the virus - and the way you describe it heywood, that's not the likely case - defence capability would not be affected. You'd need a different virus that's less discriminating on age.
Vae on 29/3/2020 at 16:26
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Should China be sued by all affected countries of the Corona Virus, on it being the result of a biological weapon?
Most people do not understand the implications of the Wuhan virus being a biological weapon. If it is discovered that the Wuhan virus is in fact a biological weapon, and was released purposely,
that would be an act of war from China, and we will have entered into a World War III scenario.There are three possibilities:
1) The Wuhan virus is a naturally occurring mutation - In this case, China's mishandling of the viral outbreak would be considered
negligence, and many countries of the world will demand reparations for their loss. This will be a massive blow to China...and if they refuse compensation, it would lead to further conflict.
2) The Wuhan virus is a bioweapon that was released accidentally - In this case, China would be guilty of
manslaughter...and there would be the possibility of war, which could only be averted by extremely heavy reparations. Even then, China would be stained for decades to come.
3) The Wuhan virus is a bioweapon that was released purposefully - In the case, China would be guilty of
homicide...which would instantly place us at war with China.
