nickie on 11/10/2017 at 19:26
Quote Posted by jkcerda
only thing I have heard is she was criticizing trump while having all the relief supplies right behind her.
As I understand it, those supplies were from private sources and nothing to do with US aid. Don't know for certain though. But OK, seems nothing scandalous is being reported by anyone reputable so I shall ignore it.
Is it time to change the title to Dump Trump, Renz? I'm not sure how much more awfulness I can cope with - and I don't even live there.
Renzatic on 11/10/2017 at 20:11
Quote Posted by jkcerda
don't care about other countries, what WE do is what matter, ISIS smisis, they would not exist w/o our interference, and if they did their wrath would be with the countries still there.
If they were only concerned about aiming their ire at countries still occupying the ME, you'd have a point. But it's a fairly assumption to think that were the left uncontested, allowed to run free and establish their caliphate, they'd eventually start striking back at us on our home soil.
Think about how even the occasional terrorist attack has stirred us up. All it took were a dozen or so high profile attacks in the US and Europe, and already we're panicking, willing to wipe away 80 years of the modern standards of western civilization to protect ourselves, now contending with a sharp rise in left/right extremism that's more than willing to fill the void once occupied by the previous (relatively) moderate standards. Think about what would happen were we to face an enemy that's not only savvy, but established? The attacks would be that much worse, and we'd, in turn, eat ourselves alive from the inside out in response.
Quote Posted by nickie
Is it time to change the title to Dump Trump, Renz? I'm not sure how much more awfulness I can cope with - and I don't even live there.
Eh, you get numb to it after awhile.
We'll change the thread title when things start getting REALLY shitty.
Renzatic on 11/10/2017 at 20:50
That poor donkey. :(
jkcerda on 12/10/2017 at 17:10
polls are meaningless, democrats pretty much predicted a "landslide win" , bannon can KMA.
nickie on 12/10/2017 at 17:32
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Eh, you get numb to it after awhile.
You might do, Renz, but I no longer am. The man is pure poison and I have children and grandchildren to worry about. I'd rather like them to have a future. Funny the (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyE0NedXWpM) things you remember out of nowhere.
demagogue on 12/10/2017 at 18:58
Cf. (
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/donald-trump-is-unraveling-white-house-advisers) “I Hate Everyone in the White House!”: Trump Seethes as Advisers Fear the President Is “Unraveling”
I feel like he's been unraveling since his first week in office, so not even that matters practically. The only thing that matters is if his cabinet invokes the 25th Amendment to effectively remove him from office, otherwise we just carry on with an unraveled president and let the chips fall where they fall, and hopefully that's just an endless stream of gaffes to the end and nothing harmful to the country & irreversible.
The image that comes to my mind there, though, is that embarrassing display (aren't they all?) where Trump went around the table and forced each of his cabinet members to say nice things about him. It's a pack of delusional sycophants that would have no business being there without him. But if Steve Bannon says the biggest threat to Trump is his cabinet turning against him, it may be in the cards.
At this point it's only interesting to watch as palace intrigue, since that kind of tension snapping into some kind of internal coup would be viciously epic, in the B-movie political thriller sense. To mirror Renz, eh, we take what we can get.
Renzatic on 12/10/2017 at 19:22
The most amazing thing I find about all this is how quickly the alt-right have turned on everyone they once claimed to support. Trump's tenure in the White House has seen more attacks against the Republican base than just about any other group out there, attempting to prune the party of anyone that doesn't toe with absolute certainty their ideological line.
In a roundabout way, they'll end up being the ones responsible for bringing the mainstream left and right back together again (or at least begrudgingly willing to cooperate). By the time they're done, they're going to have 10 hardline crazies in their corner, facing off against everyone from the most socialist of the Greens, all the way to the most classically conservative of the Republicans.
In the end, the only vote Trump will be able to hold on to are the Evangelicals, who seem to love him for some reason. Everyone else is seeing him for what he is: a guy who ran for the highest office in the land as a vanity project, and ended up being too ill equipped to handle the job.
RICHARD SPENCER 2020!