Aja on 10/1/2025 at 21:41
It's in the news a lot. I don't think anyone is genuinely afraid of being annexed, but the threat of 25 percent tariffs is, as far as I can tell, being taken very seriously. The prevailing attitude seems to be: he's full of shit, as always, but we can't dismiss everything he says either.
demagogue on 10/1/2025 at 21:52
Quote Posted by heywood
Feels like an empty symbolic victory. I still think it was a bit of a stretch to pursue a felony charge for hush money.
I get that instinct, though it wasn't for the hush money per se; it was for intentionally falsifying the financial reporting records. So it's in the world of business records fraud, and I don't think it's a stretch even on those grounds everything else aside. He'd already lost suits against him for his fraud with Trump University and some charity, and you'll see credible fraud allegations and settlements in almost every business venture he's ever been involved in, his Atlantic City casino, Trump Model Management, etc., but especially his real estate work. The shoe needed to come down on his falsifying records and shady business practices, and fraud feels like the appropriate level when it's that egregious for that long.
But anyway it's still a low-level fraud, and even if he would have gotten a prison sentence (I think a first-time offender normally wouldn't, but I think Trump might have because, one, as suggested above, it's not really a first time offense but part of a decades long practice of records falsification, and, two, his attacks on the court and judge themselves and no sign of repentance or signal he won't continuing falsifying records and the like were pretty egregious, etc.), but even still it probably wouldn't have been more than a year. It's clearly the weakest of the allegations against him, and I don't think anyone would put it above the others in terms of defining his legacy or status going into office. He shouldn't have the status of a petty small-times business felon; he should have the status of an major insurrectionist felon, like you're saying, which would have made the 14th Amendment's insurrection clause bar from even assuming elected office a viable thing.
But back to the main point, I think it's still an important victory that he has the status of even a low-level felon. It's not just symbolic. He really can't vote in Florida or visit some countries as such, etc, and it means something in terms of his political capital and legitimacy in office. It's a real legal status with real consequences that go beyond mere symbolism.
But aside from all of that, I basically agree with the gist of your bigger take on it.
Nicker on 11/1/2025 at 03:30
Some people in Canada are annoyed because we may have to go back down to DC and burn the White House again, while we would really prefer just getting along.
I don't think it's any particular toothless threat that's the problem, it's just the general level of mental instability and the blasé willingness of his minions to go along with it like it's perfectly normal.
lowenz on 11/1/2025 at 09:14
Quote Posted by heywood
How are folks in Canada responding to Trump's trolls? Is anybody taking it seriously there? We aren't taking it seriously here.
Greenland on the other hand...
It's not trolling, it's a menace "I can be Putin too" (but the reality is NOT, he can't because he isn't even interested in those things but he knows he must say them to not become a lesser character).
You know, "national security reasons" justify everything: "security is importand and I'm here to guarantee it with every tool in my.....POWER".
RippedPhreak on 11/1/2025 at 14:44
No one gives a shit about Canada and we don't want it. Trump was just trying to humiliate Trudeau, essentially saying you'd be better off as part of the USA than dealing with Trudeau's clownish leadership.
Starker on 11/1/2025 at 17:14
You clearly do, seeing as Canada is your biggest trading partner and closest ally. Making friends with your enemies and making enemies out of your friends -- what a capital idea! Wonder why nobody hadn't thought of that before.
RippedPhreak on 11/1/2025 at 18:29
Maybe Canada's friendship would be worth something under a better leader that isn't driving it into the ground. I have some reservations about this Poilievre fellow if he is to be the next PM, but still probably a step up from JT.
Canada seems like about 25 million hopeless shitlibs, 5 million cool people (the ones who did the trucker protest etc) and another 10 million international students from India. We'll take the cool people, the rest should be left to wallow in their misery.
lowenz on 11/1/2025 at 20:02
Quote Posted by RippedPhreak
Maybe Ukraine's friendship would be worth something under a better leader that isn't driving it into the ground. I have some reservations about this Zaluzhny fellow if he is to be the next PM, but still probably a step up from Zelensky
Fixed with MAGA-compliant attitude toward the "strong men" that "really knows how things work" and let you serve them.
RippedPhreak on 11/1/2025 at 20:39
Someday you might actually ask a conservative what they think about something instead of assigning them a motivation out of your latest fever dream.
lowenz on 12/1/2025 at 00:18
Quote Posted by RippedPhreak
Someday you
might actually ask a conservative what they think about something instead of assigning them a motivation out of your latest fever dream.
It's not my fever, that's the problem. Conversativism IS the fever, just look at Bannon.
If you don't catch the script (it's always the same) they want you to get stick to.....