Starker on 2/10/2021 at 06:06
"When fascism comes to America, it will come molesting the flag and carrying a bible upside down."
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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/574822-democratic-party-headquarters-in-texas-county-attacked-by-man-with)
A man tried to use a Molotov cocktail to damage the Travis County Democratic Party headquarters in Austin, Texas, on Wednesday morning, officials said.
Katie Naranjo, chair of the county's Democratic Party, told reporters during a news conference on Wednesday that the man, who was wearing a bandana with the American flag on it, had attempted to attack the building at 2 a.m.
Brandon Jennings, the captain of the Austin Fire Department's arson section, said the man placed an “incendiary device” inside the building. He said a stack of papers appeared to have been lit on fire, but the actual device did not ignite.
Jennings said workers from a nearby business had extinguished the fire by the time authorities arrived.
No staff had been inside the building and there was minimal damage, he said.
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Naranjo mentioned that the suspect had left a threatening note that was “political in nature,” but declined to provide further details of what the note had said.
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Cipheron on 4/10/2021 at 00:41
Recently i started using seatbelts as an analogy for people who refuse vaccines / masks. At some point you have to stop beating the drum and just say: "ok the seatbelt is there, you know the risks, if you don't use it, no skin off my nose". However, yesterday on a doco I discovered that anti-seatbelt was a Rush Limbaugh thing, and right-wing talking point in general, and conservatives refused to wear seatbelts to own the libs.
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https://www.businessinsider.com.au/when-americans-went-to-war-against-seat-belts-2020-5)
Jason Moyer on 4/10/2021 at 04:10
I usually use the drunk driving metaphor. No one gives the slightest crap if you want to get hammered and wrap your car around a telephone pole, it's illegal because you don't have the right to endanger other people.
Cipheron on 4/10/2021 at 16:05
Quote Posted by Jason Moyer
I usually use the drunk driving metaphor. No one gives the slightest crap if you want to get hammered and wrap your car around a telephone pole, it's illegal because you don't have the right to endanger other people.
Sure, i get where you're coming from that, the analogy is better.
My main point however was that there was a whole conservative thing about refusing to wear seatbelts because they thought that was handing it to the liberals, and how much this parallels what's happening with masks now.
There were even identical talking points, such as claiming that seatbelts aren't effective, OR that being thrown out of the car is SAFER than getting "constrained" by a seatbelt in the smouldering wreckage of your car. So yeah, there were a bunch of people with "deadly seatbelt" conspiracies mirroring the mask and vaccine stuff now.
... Now that I think of it, i just remembered someone once upon a time, 1990s probably, telling me that seatbelts are a secret ploy to
decapitate people in accidents, because if you got beheaded by the seatbelt then they wouldn't have to pay out your auto-insurance. I had no idea what to think of that at the time, but now I think that this was part of the anti-seatbelt conspiracy propaganda of the day.
faetal on 6/10/2021 at 13:41
Seatbelts are the least of it. They routinely vote in mega-rich psychos who make sure that very few people can have affordable healthcare to stick it to the liberals too.
Cipheron on 7/10/2021 at 05:55
Steve Bannon's latest thing is about calling for 20,000 "shock troopers" to be ready to take over every department of the government, he contrasted that as "not 4000 but 20000".
Clearly, the context here is referring to the Jan 6th capitol insurrection, and what he's saying is that it wasn't big enough, and they need to have a coordinated effort to seize control of all government agencies simultaneously to put their plan into action. The term itself of "shock troopers" is designed to be as close as possible to actual Nazi imagery as you can get without quite crossing that line.
lowenz on 7/10/2021 at 06:05
It seems pretty clear Bannon doesn't have a clue about how police and national guard work OR he's simply playing his part knowing exactly that it's a massive travesty (tragedy)?
Cipheron on 7/10/2021 at 06:10
Quote Posted by lowenz
It seems pretty clear Bannon doesn't have a clue about how police and national guard work OR he's simply playing his part knowing exactly that it's a massive travesty (tragedy)?
Given the rest of his language said stuff like "we're really in control so it's time to prove it", my guess is that a guard / military uprising would be part of the plan. Note that recently the military has been *very* interested in purging right-wing radicals from their ranks and the right-wing are up in arms about it. So the idea that radicalized far-right soldiers might participate in a coup is now a threat taken seriously.
lowenz on 7/10/2021 at 06:21
Soldiers without equipment can't do nothing today :p (apart dying of "democratic hoax" viruses......)
Starker on 7/10/2021 at 08:21
People equipped with little more than tasers and bear spray and flagpoles managed to break into and vandalise the US Capitol while Congress was in session.