demagogue on 20/1/2021 at 14:18
I don't know the details of what's going on, but it's not worth dwelling too much on one person anyway (especially) when there's a vastly bigger story going on.
So any bets on what happens tomorrow? My personal feeling is, I don't know how anyone could have any energy left to be up in arms. Isn't the whole thing just exhausting at this point? But I recognize that my powers of empathy are limited in seeing the world through the eyes of T***p insurgents.
I hope there's not violence; I'm worried there might be some; but I think it'll be sporadic and small anyway, if nothing else just for logistical reasons. Nobody is going to be changing anything. But I don't know.
The meme I see getting tossed around by the right-leaning crowd these days is the same photos of some mass of Guatemalans that are apparently going to be swarming into the US the minute Biden becomes president. FFS, that was an absurdly fake boogyman when T***p sent the national guard or soldiers or whoever in to literally guard an empty stretch of desert last year or whenever. How can they still be so enraged by such cheap hate-fodder?
This would be a good year for another one of those summers of love. Lord knows we need it.
lowenz on 20/1/2021 at 14:54
Quote Posted by Gryzemuis
You have to try and be fair, human, honest.
But stern nonetheless. Or "
Ahah, stupid libtard snowflake, I got the best of you!!!11111" reaction is guaranteed. And they (auto)feed their confidence on this kind of "victories".
It's why they're so persistent and see theyselves as "ultimate patriots" and laugh at everybody else: it's the way for the fool to maintain his confidence.
And
I pity the fool :p
faetal on 20/1/2021 at 15:17
Quote Posted by demagogue
I hope there's not violence; I'm worried there might be some; but I think it'll be sporadic and small anyway, if nothing else just for logistical reasons. Nobody is going to be changing anything. But I don't know.
I read somewhere that a talking point on a lot of the dickhead forums is there are a lot of people advising to stay away from any planned riots, as they are supposed FBI honeypots. So the intersection between dickheads and conspiracy theorists might actually be useful for once (assuming it is true and prevalent enough to make an impact).
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This would be a good year for another one of those summers of love. Lord knows we need it.
Almost half of the vote went to The Dickhead. I can't see that many assholes just evaporating once he fucks off.
Cipheron on 20/1/2021 at 16:36
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Almost half of the vote went to The Dickhead. I can't see that many assholes just evaporating once he fucks off.
Give it 18 months. You'll have people saying conservatives never voted for Trump and he was a liberal plot the whole time.
Don't underestimate how quickly those guys can unmake someone once they're no longer useful.
"Trump? Who? Oh, that guy you liberals were always obsessed with".
SubJeff on 20/1/2021 at 16:41
Ha ha. I believe it!
Lady Gaga wasn't bad. I liked her outfit.
SubJeff on 20/1/2021 at 16:54
Anyone know what Jennifer Lopez shouted in Spanish?
Gryzemuis on 20/1/2021 at 17:04
Surprise. It's 17:05 UTC. Biden is still alive.
faetal on 20/1/2021 at 17:32
Quote Posted by Cipheron
Give it 18 months. You'll have people saying conservatives never voted for Trump and he was a liberal plot the whole time.
Don't underestimate how quickly those guys can unmake someone once they're no longer useful.
"Trump? Who? Oh, that guy you liberals were always obsessed with".
Maybe, but it's feasible that Trump is a symptom, rather than the cause of the assholes.
(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement) Case in point.
Pyrian on 20/1/2021 at 18:43
"1 Term" wins.
Starker on 20/1/2021 at 18:56
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In this case, the FBI arrested her, and I believe the FBI to be competent enough that they did so with good information, so theorizing about ill motives of the informant which mean the charges are bullshit is really just making stuff up that's not even in the story.
I never said the things she was actually charged with were bullshit. I'm not saying the ex must necessarily be lying or that they made the whole story up. All I've been saying is that it's a lot of accusation the newspaper stories are putting out based on one (quite likely adversarial) person's account, especially since the details are so vague and suspect, that's all. And as I've tried to demonstrate to you, there are a lot of things that could be wrong with one person's second-hand account of the events, even if they are believing to be telling the truth. You are hung up about the ex, but it's the account of the events that I have been pointing out is suspicious. Notice how the things that she was actually charged with were different from what the initial stories indicated and how the details of the story have changed substantially? Don't fall for the sensationalism of the media and don't jump to conclusions is the lesson I have been pointing out.
Knowingly making false statements to the FBI, especially when interviewed by an agent or giving testimony is a crime. Leaving a tip that you can later say you believed was true is very hard to prove in court. Similarly, exaggerating about something or speculating about something is not necessarily a material lie. Again, the reason I am doubting the more sensational parts of the story is not because I'm convinced that the ex must be a scumbag or something, the reason is that the details have been so vague and speculatory and based on the statements of one side only. Not taking someone at face value is not the same as accusing them of making the entire thing up.
As for the idea that the FBI would never arrest anyone, if they didn't have a good reason... Having a good reason to arrest someone doesn't necessarily mean all the information the FBI gets is completely true and should always be believed 100 percent. Especially not when the FBI themselves aren't saying they believe it to be true.
I mean...
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The affidavit links to images of all-caps, typo-riddled social media posts from a user named “Riley” who declares that they “STOLE S — T FROM NANCY POLESI.”
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One four-second video captures a female voice — which an agent believes to be Williams — saying “Dude, put on gloves,” before a black-gloved hand takes a computer from a table. A caption across the clip says, “they got the laptop.”
What a master ringleader and spy. Now do you not think it more likely she's just a dumb teenager* who got caught up in things?
* by mentality, not by age
