lowenz on 7/12/2020 at 16:53
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executions of gay people
Oh, so now gay lives matter for the Right too? :p
You're a Trump elector,
right? What do you think of the master-level strategy :D of your commander in chief: the satanic conspiracy has no.....real consistency.
For the lunatics apart.
nemyax on 7/12/2020 at 17:03
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Oh, so now gay lives matter for the Right too?
I don't know. Shouldn't they?
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You're a Trump elector,
right?
I'm not an elector at all, and I couldn't vote for Trump if I wanted to.
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the satanic conspiracy
What's "satanic"? Does this refer to that cool character from Jewish fairy tales?
lowenz on 7/12/2020 at 17:17
Quote Posted by nemyax
I don't know. Shouldn't they?
I'm not an elector at all, and I couldn't vote for Trump if I wanted to.
What's "satanic"? Does this refer to that cool character from Jewish fairy tales?
Actually that's SATANAEL (really similar to Anubi) and it's not the *Christianity* Satan (that's the Jesus reinterpretation of the old angel Satanael that tries people's worthiness behind JHWH).
So it can't ben a jew-based conspiracy among all the others (just remember that Jared is really a.....zealot) :p
nemyax on 7/12/2020 at 17:23
You, Sir, are well versed in this stuff. But what do I do with all that trivia now?
howeird on 7/12/2020 at 19:01
This was a interesting read. I didn't know Trump republicans really don't care for her because she is considered to be a globalist. Trump supports her and her NYSE chairman husband doesn't surprise me.
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https://www.independentsentinel.com/georgia-on-my-mind/)
Starker on 7/12/2020 at 22:00
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Disraeli may well have had a reason to write this particular thing at that particular time, and then things may have changed. After all, there was a marked cultural difference between two Scottish migration waves that were only 60 or 70 years apart, as Thomas Sowell notes.
Yeah, the reason being blatant bigotry. Just as you look down on entire ethnic groups today, the Irish were being looked down by their colonial occupiers.
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At this point (after the latest Chechen wars were in effect lost by the Russian military), it's not entirely clear who's under whose control. I personally don't think there was ever any point in Russia controlling that territory (or most of its current territory for that matter, but it's probably going to shed a crapload of that within a few decades anyway). Whatever the history, the situation is what it is. The only law in Chechnya is the word of the region's overlord. Russian law is powerless there. The ruling clan is flooded with money that's essentially tribute. All they have to do in return is turn in 99.9% for the right candidates at every election. This shit is far beyond the wildest dreams of anyone who ever fought Russia on the Chechen side.
So if you're wondering what's wrong with places like Chechnya, look at what these guys are doing when they've got it made: Boston bombings, Conflans-Sainte-Honorine beheadings and routine local executions of gay people. And total absence of any distinguished Chechen artists, filmmakers, scientists or writers in the past couple of decades. I mean Russia has waged wars on many of its neighbours (all of them actually), but this kind of 15th-century bollocks is unique.
I don't know how much power the Russian law has there, but the current ruling clan, as you call it, is decidedly pro-Moscow and were, in fact, appointed by Putin and enjoy his full support. So all the savagery you are talking about is done with Russian support. And as for the situation being what it is, maybe assassinating the country's first democratically elected leader and installing an extremist might have just a smidge to do with that. And maybe the bombings and other atrocities against the civilian population have just a smidge to do with the radicalisation of the people there. It's not like Russia has been just an innocent bystander. This is like the colonial powers looking at Middle East and Africa and wondering why they have such a mess there.
lowenz on 7/12/2020 at 22:02
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Yeah, the reason being blatant bigotry. Just as you look down on entire ethnic groups today, the Irish were being looked down by their colonial occupiers.
I don't know how much power the Russian law has there, but
the current ruling clan, as you call it, is decidedly pro-Moscow and were, in fact, appointed by Putin and enjoy his full support. So all the savagery you are talking about is done with Russian support. And as for the situation being what it is, maybe assassinating the country's first democratically elected leader and installing an extremist might have just a smidge to do with that. And maybe the bombings and other atrocities against the civilian population have just a smidge to do with the radicalisation of the people there. It's not like Russia has been just an innocent bystander. This is like the colonial powers looking at Middle East and Africa and wondering why they have such a mess there.
Exactly.
[video=youtube;_ellvI2LeGc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ellvI2LeGc[/video]
Starker on 7/12/2020 at 22:16
As for the "total absence of any distinguished Chechen artists, filmmakers, scientists or writers in the past couple of decades", maybe this bit from the Wiki might help shed a bit of light on it (bolding mine):
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War)
Impact on the Chechen population
According to a 2006 report by Médecins Sans Frontières, "the majority of Chechens still struggle through lives burdened by fear, uncertainty and poverty." A survey conducted by MSF in September 2005 showed that 77% of the respondents were suffering from "discernible symptoms of psychological distress".
As of 2008, the infant mortality rate stood at 17 per 1,000, the highest in Russia; There are reports of growing a number of genetic disorders in babies and unexplained illnesses among school children. One child in 10 is born with some kind of anomaly that requires treatment. Some children whose parents can afford it are sent to the neighbouring republic of Dagestan, where treatment is better; Chechnya lacks sufficient medical equipment in most of its medical facilities. According to the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF), since 1994 to 2008 about 25,000 children in Chechnya have lost one or both parents. A whole generation of Chechen children is showing symptoms of psychological trauma. In 2006, Chechnya's pro-Moscow deputy health minister, said the Chechen children had become "living specimens" of what it means to grow up with the constant threat of violence and chronic poverty. In 2007, the Chechen interior ministry has identified 1,000 street children involved in vagrancy; the number was increasing.
According to official statistics, Chechnya's unemployment rate in August 2009 was 32.9%. By 2017, this figure had decreased to 13.9%.
Many people remain homeless because so much of Chechnya's housing was destroyed by the Russian federal forces and many people have not yet been given compensation. Not only the social (such as housing and hospitals) and economic infrastructure but also the foundations of culture and education, including most of educational and cultural institutions, were destroyed over the course of the two wars in Chechnya. However ongoing reconstruction efforts have been rebuilding the region at a quick pace over the past few years, including new housing, facilities, paved roads and traffic lights, a new mosque, and restoration of electricity to much of the region. Governmental, social and commercial life remain hobbled by bribery, kidnapping, extortion and other criminal activity; reports by the Russian government estimate that the organized crime sector is twice the Russian average and the government is widely perceived to be corrupt and unresponsive.
Hundreds of thousands of Chechens were displaced by the conflict, including 300,000 at the height of the conflict in 2000. Most of them were displaced internally in Chechnya and in neighbouring republic of Ingushetia, but thousands of refugees also went into exile, with, as of 2008, most of them residing in the European Union countries.
nemyax on 7/12/2020 at 22:34
Quote Posted by Starker
the current ruling clan, as you call it, is decidedly pro-Moscow
Only as long as Putin pays their way. As soon as the money stream dries up, they'll be pro-Saudi in an instant, and we'll have a fresh caliphate before that day's sun sets. And all the (few) remaining Russians there will have been massacred by the time the sun's up again.
lowenz on 7/12/2020 at 22:51
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Only as long as Putin pays their way. As soon as the money stream dries up, they'll be pro-Saudi in an instant, and we'll have a fresh caliphate before that day's sun sets. And all the (few) remaining Russians there will have been massacred by the time the sun's up again.
It's not the caucasian way. Chechen people, like turkish people, has no particular love for the Saudi world. Of course they are part of the sunni Ummah but they are more related to Egypt.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_international_conference_on_Sunni_Islam_in_Grozny)
The conference was notable for excluding representatives of Wahhabi and Salafi movements, and for its definition of Sunni Muslims in the final communiqué of the conference that included Sufis, Ash'arites and Maturidis, but not Wahhabis or Salafis.[8][9] It identified Salafism/Wahhabism as a dangerous and misguided sect, along with the extremist groups, such as ISIS, Hizb ut-Tahrir, the Muslim Brotherhood and othersStill chechen vision of the community is a very clan-centered, like.....vikings.
So for you and for the West Right Wing movements Chechens are sometimes "highly civilized people" (community traditions over individual freedoms) and sometimes "totally undercivilized people".....
on occurance.
You know: today dangerous muslims with anti-west sentiments, tomorrow genuine believers in their traditions, we (western people) have lost to
GLOBALIST LIBTARDIAN RULE!!1111.....it's all in the spinning.