Cipheron on 3/12/2020 at 03:03
Flynn is actually one of the most dangerous characters out there. He's been leaning into that Q stuff hard, and not just following it, most of them think he is Q. If you have Flynn running in 2024 that would be the worst case scenario, since he's got a ready-made army of brainwashed zealots. It would make Trump look like Charlie Chaplin in The Great Dictator, as can be seen in that headline.
lowenz on 3/12/2020 at 08:54
Quote Posted by Cipheron
The real point is that Biden isn't going to raise taxes on the middle class, because that's not where the bulk of cuts actually occurred.
The focus will be on super-high-earners and restoring corporate taxes. Biden should renew and perhaps increase the tax cut for middle-class when it expires however, that would be a smart move. And the Dems can make a big deal about how Trump set them to expire when/if they pass the renewal, perhaps permanent, to make a point. That expiry clause will come back to hurt the Republicans at least a little bit.
So he will destroy the work they provide ("
Why provide work to people if the damn communists will tax me!!111")
It's always possible to spin a thing to become an electoral weapon.
lowenz on 3/12/2020 at 08:58
Quote Posted by demagogue
Hell of a headline. Imagine if he'd had stayed on as our NSA. January can't come fast enough.
The president can suspend the constitution by himself?
Is this even possible?
demagogue on 3/12/2020 at 09:25
No, not technically, but the more important question is, do the other branches have the power to stop him, and even if they do, what happens when they fail to do their duty? It's an academic question here now because Trump is already gearing up for his 2024 campaign, so I think we're getting on to the next stage of this anyway.
But anyway, the thing Flynn reposted referenced the time Abraham Lincoln suspended some rights by putting Washington DC under martial law & suspending habeus corpus in the middle of the Civil War, and Flynn was arguing that what we're going through now (Trump being "denied his rightful 2nd term" because more people democratically voted against him, lol) is even a bigger crisis than the civil war.
First, there is no way this is worse than the civil war; but dumber problem with that argument before you even get there is that the Supreme Court ultimately ruled against what Lincoln did as unconstitutional because the local courts were still functioning.
lowenz on 3/12/2020 at 10:29
This Flynn has some kind of mujahiddin approach to reality.....always on war so we can always bypass the law.....this is the end game of these propaganda moves.
Starker on 3/12/2020 at 11:59
The latest joke going around:
Q: Why is the White House the most polite place to work at right now?
A: Everyone's going around saying, "Pardon me."
Quote:
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/01/politics/trump-rudy-giuliani-pardons/index.html)
President Donald Trump's associates are making appeals to him in the hopes of obtaining pardons before he leaves office, a source familiar with the matter told CNN on Tuesday.
The source said the list of associates broaching the subject of preemptive pardons that would seek to shield those individuals from prosecution includes Rudy Giuliani, who has been leading the President's long-shot legal battles to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election in his role as Trump's personal attorney.
Since the election, Trump has been discussing with advisers preemptively pardoning several people close to him, including his children, son-in-law and Giuliani, a separate source familiar confirmed to CNN. The potential pardon list includes others who are close to the President and could be legally vulnerable but have not been charged.
demagogue on 3/12/2020 at 12:30
Just so non-Americans are aware, the governor of Illinois in 2008, Rod Blagojevich, got convicted for 14 years for soliciting bribes for a normal part of his job (filling Obama's senate seat after he won the presidency). It just goes to show a politician can be prosecuted for doing a normal part of a job (in this case a pardon) if they ask for money for it, even if it'd be perfectly legal for them to do it otherwise.
Quote Posted by Starker
The latest joke going around:
Q: Why is the White House the most polite place to work at right now?
A: Everyone's going around saying, "Pardon me."
That joke is so lit it got cracked here twice.
Quote Posted by demagogue
Dan Rather with the killer joke for the day: "Why is the Trump White House suddenly a very polite place to work? Everyone's going around saying 'pardon me.' "
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Pathetic.
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https://apnews.com/article/heidi-stirrup-banned-justice-department-7624560e990ec55383a2a3e421c3a52e) Trump aide banned from Justice after trying to get case info
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Cipheron on 4/12/2020 at 04:29
Might share this one with you people (btw i had an account here once but it's lost to the midst of time, maybe 3-4 email addresses ago for me, so I made a new one)
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https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics/florida-attorney-under-investigation-registering-vote-georgia-encouraging-others-do-same/L6LTC2AHBFDMXPOTZKVMO5ESJQ/)
Quote:
A Florida attorney is at the center of a new state investigation after elections officials say he recently attempted to register to vote in Georgia and instructed other Florida Republicans on how to do it .
There's video of him in the link instructing others how to commit electoral fraud by all registering to vote at his brother's house in Georgia. He tried to brush this off as merely joking, but he did in fact try to register to vote in Georgia at the address and is being investigated on felony charges.
Briareos H on 4/12/2020 at 06:41
Everyone I've seen buy into team Trump's rhetoric at least a little have the common trait of claiming massive election fraud, even mild cases who reluctantly recognize that Biden wins despite the fraud. Not being in the US, I've never ever understood them and the argument that if there is massive fraud, it will be mostly democratic in nature. I mean, the DNC do seem to be a bunch of corrupt morons, but they are saints compared to Republican officials, especially those with a pledge of allegiance to Trump.
It's really not a surprise to me that most recounts have yielded more votes for Biden. In spite of that, people keep clinging to the fraud allegations and are inciting others to lose trust in the system. And I have physically campaigned against electronic voting machines, I am the first to agree that the system is not perfect, but what these people display is not the level of distrust where you want to improve things, it's the one where you just want things to disappear without considering the impact, making it worse for everyone in the process.
Starker on 4/12/2020 at 07:02
It is most telling that they are alleging voter fraud in states where Biden won. They don't seem to be campaigning in Kansas, Ohio, etc. If there really was any evidence of massive election fraud, wouldn't it make sense to have recounts and investigate in all states?
Ah, Florida man strikes again. On a more positive note, they finally found that voting fraud they've been talking about. And, according to their logic, Florida should go to Biden now?
I guess she was there to Stirrup some trouble.
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I'll see myself out.
