Renzatic on 14/11/2019 at 21:16
Like I keep saying, we live in fucky times.
jkcerda on 14/11/2019 at 21:38
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Oh, and hey, Dema. Goldmoon wants you to use your big lawyerly libtard mind to explain how the stupidcrats expect to win a case TOTALLY BUILT ON HEARSAY OLOL!
UNTIL you get a trump confession or one of the people DIRECTLY involved that is indeed all you got......
Renzatic on 14/11/2019 at 21:58
Yeah, cuz witness testimony ain't ever been used as evidence before.
Renzatic on 14/11/2019 at 22:01
"Did you rob that liquor store?"
"Pfft. No."
"These 15 people here were in the store at the time of the robbery, and have positively identified you. What do you say to that?"
"I didn't do it."
"But they say you did."
"So what? That's just hearsay. You got a videotape of me doing it?"
"...no."
"THE DEFENSE RESTS, YOUR HONOR!"
jkcerda on 14/11/2019 at 22:06
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Yeah, cuz witness testimony ain't ever been used as evidence before.
that is just it. you DON'T have a "witness", it's all the INTERPRETATION of people involved, not a single one has said it was at trumps direction .......I am talking first hand knowledge, not "I hear from so and so who is related to my third wifes cousing twice removed after I saw her twitter feed"
Renzatic on 14/11/2019 at 22:15
It's more like "Giuliani was doing this shit, and it was weird, and wrong, and felt dirty."
...and Giuliani was working at who's behest again?
INFERENCE, MOTHER TEENAGER! DO YOU DO IT?
Renzatic on 14/11/2019 at 22:25
When a man unprincipled in private life, desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, despotic in his ordinary demeanour, known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty - when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity to join in the cry of danger to liberty, to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government, and bringing it under suspicion to flatter and fall in with all the nonsense of the zealots of the day, it may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.
It's nigh on about fucking spooky, ain't it?
jkcerda on 14/11/2019 at 22:49
exactly, trump can deny everything and say Rudy went rogue etc etc etc, but even then you don't have a single person pointing to rudy.
Renzatic on 14/11/2019 at 23:01
Taylor and Kent both pointed to Rudy in their testimony.
By itself, their testimony isn't the oft mentioned smoking gun everyone is expecting, but their testimony can be used as evidence to a greater whole. The democrats are building a case here, and they've still got, I believe, 11 more witnesses expected to testify over the coming weeks. There's even more if you count those who have been called, but are ignoring their subpoenas.
...which, by the way, is a gross expansion of the powers of the executive branch, given that congress is a check on the powers of the presidency. I'm surprised you're not spitting nails over this one.
This all or nothing approach to the investigation that assumes if every word doesn't prove Trump guilty, then he's absolutely innocent is pretty damn stupid. I mean, there's no way anyone could listen to what Bill Taylor said and come away with "well, that wasn't all that bad."
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https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6541272-Transcript-of-William-Taylor-s-deposition-in-the.html) Here's his transcript if you want to read it.
jkcerda on 14/11/2019 at 23:13
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Taylor and Kent both pointed to Rudy in their testimony.
By itself, their testimony isn't the oft mentioned smoking gun everyone is expecting, but their testimony can be used as evidence to a greater whole. The democrats are building a case here, and they've still got, I believe, 11 more witnesses expected to testify over the coming weeks. There's even more if you count those who have been called, but are ignoring their subpoenas.
...which, by the way, is a gross expansion of the powers of the executive branch, given that congress is a check on the powers of the presidency. I'm surprised you're not spitting nails over this one.
This all or nothing approach to the investigation that assumes if every word doesn't prove Trump guilty, then he's absolutely innocent is pretty damn stupid. I mean, there's no way anyone could listen to what Bill Taylor said and come away with "well, that wasn't all that bad."
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https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6541272-Transcript-of-William-Taylor-s-deposition-in-the.html) Here's his transcript if you want to read it.
I did not support Obama using EP, sure as hell don't support trump.
don't confuse me stating facts with support for trump, BOTH sides tend to go full retard and BOTH sides play the same stupid fucking partisan games .. clinton was let go by the senate, I imagine the same will be done for trump.