Renzatic on 20/8/2019 at 22:48
Pfft. Waffles.
jkcerda on 20/8/2019 at 23:08
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Yes. You try that once, and never again. It's an abomination. Different from fermented fish,
never ever try that. Ever.
If it's warmer than 14C, I'm wearing shorts. I can't endure the heat. But it's slightly hilarious to me here that if there's half an inch of snow, civilisation stops. Where I'm from, we have meters, for 8 months.
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Where I'm from, we get a dusting once every 3 years or so. When it happens, civilization doesn't just stop, it collapses in on itself. The sidewalks end up being coated in blood as people trample over each other as they madly dash to the store to get at the last of the milk and eggs.
...and why they always get milk and eggs, I dunno. It's like no one thinks they're truly prepared unless they have the basic ingredients to make pancakes or something.
are you two cheating on me? WTF???
Renzatic on 20/8/2019 at 23:21
JK, you're the biggest slut I've ever met in my entire life. I mean, you're a bigger slut than Bill Clinton, and Bill Clinton was a big damn slut.
Also, ur dum.
Renzatic on 20/8/2019 at 23:40
To get back on topic: (
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/08/facebook-report-attempts-to-address-claims-of-anti-conservative-bias/) Looks like facebook isn't mean to conservatives like they claim, and conservatives are mad about this.
You know, liberals are a pretty whiny bunch, but it's not like the conservatives are any better. They like to put up a tough front, sure, what with their whole "fuck your feelings" attitude, and always wearing that same goddamn shirt with the Punisher skull on it, but that's really all it is: a front. The fact is, the moment anything doesn't go their way, they squeal like stuck pigs, and start playing the "I'm the real victim here" card.
That's what this whole push against Silicon Valley allegedly censoring conservative speech is all about. There isn't any real evidence for it, but damn it's fun to gripe about, isn't it?
Starker on 21/8/2019 at 02:03
"Trade wars are good and easy to win."
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u-s-steel-layoffs-idUSKCN1V91XQ)
CHICAGO (Reuters) - United States Steel Corp will temporarily lay off hundreds of workers at its Great Lakes facility in Michigan in coming weeks, according to a filing the steelmaker made with the State of Michigan.
In a Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification filed on Aug. 5, the Pittsburgh-based company said it expects to let go fewer than 200 workers following its decision to halt production at the Michigan facility.
In mid-June, the company said it would idle two blast furnaces at its Great lakes and Gary Works plants, citing lower steel prices and softening demand.
U.S. Steel said the lay-offs at the Michigan plant could last beyond six months. They will impact nearly every area of the facility, from blast furnace to finishing operations, a company spokeswoman told Reuters.
The lay-offs call into question claims President Donald Trump has made about the resurgence of the domestic steel industry. Last week in Pennsylvania, Trump said his 25% tariff on foreign imports has turned a “dead” business into a “thriving” enterprise.
Domestic steel prices did rise in the immediate aftermath of Trump's tariffs. But they have fallen dramatically amid improved supplies and weakening demand from the auto and farm machinery sectors.
Prices of hot-rolled coil are down nearly 37% from their 2018 peak.
U.S. Steel's stock price has plunged 73% since March 1, 2018, when Trump announced his decision to crack down on foreign imports.
An official at the United Steelworkers union, which represents U.S. Steel workers, said lay-offs were also planned for the Gary Works facility in Indiana. U.S. Steel's spokeswoman, however, said the company “currently” doesn't expect “any employment level changes” at the Indiana plant.
The city of Gary and the state of Indiana have offered U.S. Steel a $47 million tax break package to help it invest $750 million in modernizing Gary Works, its largest North American plant.
The state's tax credits and worker training grants were tied to the condition that U.S. Steel retain at least 3,875 jobs at Gary Works.
Renzatic on 21/8/2019 at 22:43
Our president, The Chosen One. Donald Novum Eboracum Rex Iudaeorum
Tony_Tarantula on 22/8/2019 at 00:16
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To get back on topic: (
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/08/facebook-report-attempts-to-address-claims-of-anti-conservative-bias/) Looks like facebook isn't mean to conservatives like they claim, and conservatives are mad about this.
You know, liberals are a pretty whiny bunch, but it's not like the conservatives are any better. They like to put up a tough front, sure, what with their whole "fuck your feelings" attitude, and always wearing that same goddamn shirt with the Punisher skull on it, but that's really all it is: a front. The fact is, the moment anything doesn't go their way, they squeal like stuck pigs, and start playing the "I'm the real victim here" card.
Conservatives don't actually understand the point of victim politics. Their idea is to whine and cry "victim" hoping that someone will do something about it.
Progressives as a movement are smarter and combine the cries of "victim" with aggressive action. They understand that claiming victim status allows you to inflict punishment on your opposition while still maintaining the perception of moral superiority.
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That's what this whole push against Silicon Valley allegedly censoring conservative speech is all about. There isn't any real evidence for it, but damn it's fun to gripe about, isn't it?
You're quoting a CNN article verbatim where they used the phrase "without evidence". Just because they say that does not make it so.
You mean besides the part where Pinterest blocked pro-life content, Google Executives have been caught admitted that they feel a duty to prevent Trump from winning in 2020, a Whisteblower provided emails where Google admins were calling Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro Nazis and advocated disabling the suggestions feature to shut down those views, etc.
Columbia Journalism Review (establishment, Ivy-League, "credible" source so it's socially acceptable for you to take them seriously) found that Google's results are heavily biased in favor of major corporate outlets: (
https://www.cjr.org/tow_center/google-news-algorithm.php)
From Gizmodo (again, a source chosen so it's one you're allowed to read without being a social pariah): (
https://gizmodo.com/former-facebook-workers-we-routinely-suppressed-conser-1775461006)
Even in Wall Street Journal (one that you're DEFINITELY allowed to believe in New York) they covered it and some complaints were acknowledged as legitimate by Facebook: (
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-conservatives-dont-trust-facebook-11566309603) . Caveat is that this only happened because a Senator got involved.
There's a ton more but that's enough to disprove the notion that there's "no evidence". There is a huge amount of circumstantial evidence and it's about as strong as it could be barring the discovery of an executive email ordering political censorship.
Bias doesn't necessarily need to mean moustache twirling censorship. Some of that just results from the fact that Silicon Valley's "moderate" is the rest of the country's radical left.
Renzatic on 22/8/2019 at 00:43
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Columbia Journalism Review (establishment, Ivy-League, "credible" source so it's socially acceptable for you to take them seriously) found that Google's results are heavily biased in favor of major corporate outlets: (
https://www.cjr.org/tow_center/googl...-algorithm.php)
This doesn't surprise me. Corporations tend to favor other corporations, simply because corporations drive massive amounts of traffic. The Top 4 hits according to your link are all from the most visited news sources in the country. CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, and Fox News.
There is no conspiracy here.
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Even in Wall Street Journal (one that you're DEFINITELY allowed to believe in New York) they covered it and some complaints were acknowledged as legitimate by Facebook: (
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-con...ok-11566309603) . Caveat is that this only happened because a Senator got involved.
Which is what my link derives its news from. They found no evidence that Facebook was suppressing conservative voices, and your link doesn't accuse them of such, mostly suggesting things that Facebook could do to assuage some conservative fears of their supposed bias.
I could address the one where Facebook did choose to insert some low trending stories into their news feed to bolster their views, which isn't great, but I feel I could answer it alongside this:
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You mean besides the part where Pinterest blocked pro-life content, Google Executives have been caught admitted that they feel a duty to prevent Trump from winning in 2020, a Whisteblower provided emails where Google admins were calling Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro Nazis and advocated disabling the suggestions feature to shut down those views, etc.
Now I'll admit that, if these are true, then it does show a distinct bias against Trump and his hard right advocates, but...
...that's their right. These are privately owned companies. The hardware they use is entirely owned by them. They pay for the bandwidth. They pay for the servers used. They pay for the employees to keep their services running. They can use their platforms to espouse anything they want. There is no legal expectation of neutrality placed upon them. Now this doesn't mean you have to like it. You can hate it all you want, bitch about it to the heavens high, but you can't force the government to facilitate speech they don't want to play host to.
That would be a violation of their 1st Amendment rights. Barring outright discrimination against race, color, religion, or sexual orientation, they have the right to state whatever they wish, and associate with whoever they please.
And if they don't want to associate with you and yours, that's more your problem than anyone else's. Start your own social media platform, like the Gab people did.
Phatose on 22/8/2019 at 02:00
Did you link the wrong article? This one is about a survey of conservative's fears, and then actions taken by Facebook to allay said fears. The only thing being acknowledged is that conservatives are afraid - not that they have basis. This is far more akin to a parent turning on a nightlight for a kid who's afraid of the monster under his bed. The parent doing that isn't claiming the fear is reasonable,much less that there is a monster under the bed.