jkcerda on 24/7/2019 at 17:53
Quote Posted by Nicker
If you are confused by your own politics and evidence that by your words on other forums, that's not our problem.
Here you consistently support Trump.
Jingle jingle.
indeed I do. and shall continue to do so.
Renzatic on 24/7/2019 at 19:52
Looks like we've got tons more tidbits of information we'll never put to use.
Though there is one thing we can all say for an absolute fact: Mueller is not a politician, and is most definitely not a good public speaker. I expect the Republicans to use this against him when attacking the report.
"LOOK AT HIM MUMBLE! THE GUY'S A DIPSHIT! SHOULD WE REALLY BELIEVE A DIPSHIT LIKE HIM?"
...and thus another lifelong Republican who had the bad luck of being in the wrong place at the wrong time gets pushed beneath the grinding wheels of the political apparatus of their own party.
jkcerda on 25/7/2019 at 02:34
Renz. Exactly what I see across FB and conservative boards. They do have a point
Starker on 25/7/2019 at 03:38
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Anyway, the report itself is pretty straightforward, at least for a lawyer.
Even for a non-lawyer, it's pretty clearly laid out, especially the second part.
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McGahn is the White House lawyer... His central job is to protect the president.
Does the White House Counsel have a duty to protect the president as a person or the institution of the president? It's not like he's the president's personal lawyer, right?
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Looks like we've got tons more tidbits of information we'll never put to use.
Notably that other countries have begun to replicate what Russia has been doing, possibly leading to an escalation in cyberwarfare and election tampering. And now that the US has shown how weak it is to that and how easy it is to provoke into infighting, there's basically a giant target on its back.
Renzatic on 25/7/2019 at 04:02
Quote Posted by jkcerda
Renz. Exactly what I see across FB and conservative boards. They do have a point
If your conservative friends really did base performance upon speaking ability, they wouldn't have voted for Trump.
jkcerda on 25/7/2019 at 04:44
Renz. You forget trump is highly educated compared to them. Shit they love their wwe president. Had trump risen that Harley he was offered it would have been all over their red neck news...
Renzatic on 25/7/2019 at 05:10
A redneck wouldn't be caught dead riding a Harley these days. They sold out to the Euro-commies, and criticized Trump for his Freedom Trade War. They ride good old fashioned, born and bred American style Kawasakis now, like god intended!
Kawasaki is an old Apache word, you see. It means "Fuck Libtards."
demagogue on 25/7/2019 at 05:39
Quote Posted by Starker
Does the White House Counsel have a duty to protect the president as a person or the institution of the president? It's not like he's the president's personal lawyer, right?
That's right. He protects the office not the person. I didn't explain that point very well maybe.
It makes a lot of sense that McGahn would take a note that Trump ordered him to commit a crime if Trump
actually said that, because he needs to protect the office and not the person. But it makes no sense in hell why McGahn would just make it up to randomly attack Trump without any basis, since the office would also be damaged as well. It'd have to be something he thought was very serious and worth the risk to take a contemporaneous note like that.
My point is, the evidence supports the guilty narrative and doesn't really support any reasonable innocent narrative.
It does seem so obvious it's almost seems ridiculous to bother entertaining the "innocent explanation", but if people want to insist he's innocent, I feel like that's what you have to do. Explain the dead obvious to them like they're 5. Things like: when Trump responds, after being asked about Manafort, "I like when people don't flip" he means "I like when witnesses against me don't testify against me, are you listening, Manafort?" No other explanation even makes sense.
Tony_Tarantula on 25/7/2019 at 13:44
More from Morphionos. I looked up the guy's LinkedIN and some of what I found on there explains why this guy is so good at digging up dirt.
Parts 6-8. He goes into detail what happened after the apprehension.
TLDR: Epstein was able to sabotage the investigation by sending "Private Investigators" around to threaten victims, calling in favors with a lot of high up people in Florida, and began an extremely aggressive harassment campaign against the investigators. Derschowitz slut shamed the victims and started tracking them down after they moved.
[video=youtube;gso1qVjoShw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gso1qVjoShw&t=31s[/video]
[video=youtube;SjUxPmKf730]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjUxPmKf730[/video]
[video=youtube;KpujlN4_6T0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpujlN4_6T0[/video]
Interesting tidbit: Epstein was introduced to Derschowitz by the leading lady of the Rothschild family. I know the name is a bit of a conspiracy hot button but it's still on odd connection. I also dug up some other articles showing his exclusive contacts.
Small world incidentally. There's three degrees of connection between myself and Epstein. I have a contact (former boss) who is currently working on a huge deal (non-public info so I can't legally discuss further) with one of the Wall Street magnates that Epstein was chums with.
Between that and some of the other info dealt here...yeah. It's really, really, unusual for Epstein to have access to the "Private Investigators" of that type. Witness intimidation and harassment is usually outside the purview of real PI's incidentally and few PI's are willing to go after chiefs of police.
There isn't a whole lot there that any person wouldn't common-sense guess was going to happen. However the information continues to be dramatically at odds with Epstein's "Just a lucky trader who never actually makes any investments" official story. It provides slight reinforcement to my previous conclusion with the twist that the last two shows add some strong connections to zionist organizations I didn't know about before (I just knew Derschowitz was a rabid zionist). The other theory I've heard thrown around that also makes some significant sense is that he was basically like the dude in "The Accountant" where his job was to track down missing money for elites as that would also explain his types of behavior and unusual network.
One thing I should throw out as an aside is that the general public has a very, very, wrong idea of what Wall Street is actually like for most. The private jets and Hamptons mansions are something you now generally only see for people who are very high up at either megafunds or top-tier investment banks. That and a million bucks in NYC won't get you anywhere near as far as people think ((
https://www.financialsamurai.com/when-earning-one-million-a-year-is-not-enough/)) And only a small minority of people working in Wall Street finance ever see a $million in total annual compensation.
Not just me. I decided to see if I could corroborate and it turns out other people who work in that NYC business/finance world feel the same way: (
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/hedge-funders-have-some-thoughts-on-what-epstein-was-doing.html)
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Oddly, Epstein also claimed to do all the investing by himself while his 150 employees all worked in the back office — which Kass says reminds him of Madoff’s cover story. Though it now appears that Epstein had many fewer employees than he claimed, according to the New York Times:
THAT is patent, obvious bullshit. There's no way in hell that one person could even do all the financial analysis necessary to assess investments for an entire fund let alone perform all the client facing meetings, pitch preparation, participation in investment conferences and earnings, etc. necessary to do that. The entire reason you employ junior analysts and associates in the industry is because you don't have time to do all the analytical construction yourself and need to focus on managing business relationships.
In this article
Epstein specifically admits to running a blackmail ring according to a victimQuote:
If the blackmail theory sounds far-fetched, it’s worth keeping in mind that it was also floated by one of Epstein’s victims, Virginia Roberts Giuffre. “Epstein … also got girls for Epstein’s friends and acquaintances. Epstein specifically told me that the reason for him doing this was so that they would ‘owe him,’ they would ‘be in his pocket,’ and he would ‘have something on them,’” she said in a court affidavit, according to the investigative series in the Miami Herald that brought the case back to the public’s attention late last year.
In the 2015 filing, Giuffre claimed that Epstein “debriefed her” after she was forced into sexual encounters so that he could possess “intimate and potentially embarrassing information” to blackmail friends into parking their money with him. She also said photographic and video evidence existed — an assertion that looms especially large now that federal investigators have found a trove of images in Epstein’s home safe.