Renzatic on 24/5/2018 at 18:28
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Gasses in the sky!
I can go twice as high!
Take a look!
See the truth!
The government controls you!
uncadonego on 24/5/2018 at 18:29
A very well crafted conspiracy to help Hillary, which they kept secret until after the election. Why does anyone still believe anything that he says? All this crap he spews about transparency in government yet he won't let anyone see his tax returns.
Renzatic on 24/5/2018 at 18:30
Tax returns hell. Most of his business structuring is entirely opaque.
uncadonego on 24/5/2018 at 18:56
Quote Posted by heywood
No, Trump bitched loudly about the budget bill and threatened to veto it, but he backed off to avoid a government shutdown. He is now asking Congress to go back and revisit it, but that's not going to happen.
He was on-board with the tax bill, but the contents were worked out by Congress.
Right, I saw his proposal, he wanted to massively cut everything- justice, labour, EPA, housing, education...you know, all the stuff that doesn't matter :rolleyes: BUT, wanted big spending increases in only two things- defense and homeland security.
The bill made some small cuts and some increases here and there, and not as much as Trump wanted in his two favourites.
But the lost revenue was in the business tax cuts, yes?
Whether it pays off long term or not.....
uncadonego on 24/5/2018 at 18:58
But the real subject irritating me the most is his non-ending lying smear campaign against anyone that doesn't want to bow before him....
Renzatic on 24/5/2018 at 19:07
Quote Posted by uncadonego
But the real subject irritating me the most is his non-ending lying smear campaign against anyone that doesn't want to bow before him....
That isn't what irritates me the most. That award would go to the people who fall for it, hook, line, and sinker.
Like Vae's constant claims that the Republicans are going for Comey, Hillary, Obama, and Co. Considering how often the claims have been announced before congress without any real move or vote made on the issue, I won't believe it until they're all up in front of a congressional committee, defending their case. Yet every single time it comes up, you'll see Vae pop in here screaming "It's happening now, guys! It's for realz! The true conspirators will pay for their crimes against humanity and the American people!"
Until that day comes, I'm going to view it as nothing more than an attempt at distraction from the current goings-on. A muddying of waters.
And there's still the IG report to look forward to, which is going to expose Comey, Hillary, Obama, and his DOJ, and the FBI for the corrupt lying weasels they are, exonerating Trump of all wrongdoing. Yeah? Isn't that, word for word, exactly what that same bunch said about the Nunes memo? How'd that turn out?
uncadonego on 24/5/2018 at 20:48
Ok, must concede. How anyone still believes his buffalo spew is also beyond me.
Starker on 24/5/2018 at 22:30
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Like Vae's constant claims that the Republicans are going for Comey, Hillary, Obama, and Co. Considering how often the claims have been announced before congress without any real move or vote made on the issue, I won't believe it until they're all up in front of a congressional committee, defending their case. Yet every single time it comes up, you'll see Vae pop in here screaming "It's happening now, guys! It's for realz! The true conspirators will pay for their crimes against humanity and the American people!"
These particular guys have only been going on about it for a year or so, though. But this time they held a press conference. A press conference!
Quote Posted by heywood
North Korea should just normalize relations with South Korea, and work on conventional force reductions to remove the need for American troops in Korea. As long as they have good relations with China and South Korea, they don't need anything from the US.
North Korea needs good relations with South Korea like a dictator needs a bayonet up their ass after being dragged through streets. North Korea is more afraid of South Korean soap operas than anything that comes out of the US. It's arguably their biggest existential threat and I'm not joking.
As for the US, North Korea needs an external threat. The brainwashing that goes on in there is massive, complete with two minutes of hate and everything, and, as a result, the average North Korean believes the US is poised to invade at any moment. North Korea was never seeking peace with the US or to give up their nuclear weapons. They want the US to recognise them and treat them as equals and to appear strong, especially internally. And Lord Dampnut has delivered in spades.
Here's a set of interviews that goes a bit into this:
[video=youtube;YXo-Vov_98Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXo-Vov_98Y[/video]
Tocky on 24/5/2018 at 22:54
I don't understand how Vae and his ilk can ignore that Popadopoulus told an Australian diplomat about the hack of the DNC before it was even revealed. You can't claim your campaign didn't know and wasn't in cahoots with the Russians and the Russians didn't do the hacking when A MEMBER OF YOUR CAMPAIGN STAFF BLURTS IT OUT PRIOR TO THE INFORMATION BEING RELEASED.
Renzatic on 24/5/2018 at 23:51
Quote Posted by Starker
These particular guys have only been going on about it for a year or so, though. But this time they held a press conference. A press conference!
You know, honestly, I kinda wish it'd happen. Regardless what you think of Comey, Obama, Hillary, et al., they're a professional bunch well versed in the law. The results of dragging them all up front of the wild, wooly, highly emotional Trumpist crowd would probably end up looking more like an attempt at a kangaroo court than it would be an official hearing.
...which is the reason why it'll never happen. It's not so much that these heinous people need to be brought to justice, so long as the idea that the idea that they're a bunch of heinous people is kept afloat among their hangers-on.