demagogue on 18/11/2025 at 18:56

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If you want to think about it like a lawyer or prosecutor, how this stuff is actually done, when you get a big drop of data like emails & documents, what you do is you make a spreadsheet (or the equivalent with that image as a decent analogy) and then in the rows you'll have the theory, and then the columns will be pieces of data and how they support or speak against that theory... And basically you build a mosaic across the whole data set. It's very rarely one or two pieces of data that just tell you directly the crime. But when it's a data set this big, if you piece together the data by the theory like a mosaic, very often it happens that certain theories are going to rise to the top and others are going to sink.

It's already happening now, and the next data set that is sure to come out soon is only going to make the case stronger, but I think the basic shape of Epstein's world & the people enmeshes in it is already in view. Just on Trump, he's mentioned in 1,600 of the 2,300 email threads, more than anyone else. So in terms of a mosaic, his role is pretty well defined. But as for crimes, the crimes that have been alleged dealing with underage girls focus on the early and mid-1990s after his first divorce. That's before both the emails and the trafficking started. So you have to read the data with that in mind. But then there's the allegations linked to the modeling operations, money laundering, and casinos, which comes later and might have some documentary footprints. But anyway, it's a mosaic that involves 100s or 1000s of data points that takes a while to put together.

The second half of Meuller's report on the obstruction of justice theory is a good example of what you can end up with that's damning after the pieces are put together well.

R Soul on 18/11/2025 at 19:18

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What sort of things are being done to isolate Trump from his supporters? Some of them (e.g. in office) know exactly what they're doing but plenty of them are like scam victims who can't bear to face the fact that they aren't as astute as they thought they were, but there must be ways to wear them down.

DuatDweller on 18/11/2025 at 21:16

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"Quiet, piggy!"

(https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c70j210g4e7o)

DuatDweller on 19/11/2025 at 00:49

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Be aware mister Trump, China is ready with its robot army for war.

[video=youtube;co_kiAjTRSE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co_kiAjTRSE[/video]

demagogue on 19/11/2025 at 06:00

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Epstein holding something over Trump that would destroy him and expressing legit fear of what Trump would do to him is the consistent subtext for a lot of emails.

Well first you have to back up and organize how the emails break down, generally and the 1600 out of 2300 threads that mention Trump specifically, since they're doing different jobs.

Ones relevant to Trump are going to include the ones where he's commenting or noting news as it comes out in articles (the Katie Johnson suit evoked "here we go."), ones where he's trying to figure out what's happening (Trump probably isn't the leak because he's the dog that didn't bark and?/but? "Virginia spent hours with him" & that wasn't mentioned), ones where he's strategizing his responses or action plan to the coming prosecution ("of course he knew about the girls", and "he didn't get a massage" although note that's the email where he's scripting his responses to police & he's lying about most every item; well it looks to me like he's scripting the same sticks & carrots / threats and olive branches that Ghislaine has been doing, "I never saw him with girls" olive branch + the birthday card threat), ones where he's commenting on events that are happening to him ("they keep asking me to say what I know on Trump"), and then things where he's talking about him kind of in passing ("I could destroy Trump", "if you're a journalist and want a story, look into these things [a list including "Katie Johnson]).

Did I mention the spreadsheet approach here? Anyway, put all of these items into a spreadsheet according to the context in which they're posted, and then have you're two rows, Trump is guilty & not guilty, actually there might be a lot of theories, so make rows for all of them. You can do the exercise for yourselves (you have to add all the other data points we know external to the emails too by the way), but I'm thinking his goose is cooked.

You can explain away this or that individual one, and do that for most maybe all of them one at a time, where he's innocent, but you're coming up with different theories for each one to do that, and there should be one theory consistent across the whole data set. I could give the overall case why I think "Trump raped a child or children" is the theory that fits the best, but it'd be a good amount of work to put together, and I'm sure good lawyers are already putting it together as we speak. But just look at the ones & their context that I just posted above and the narrative is already emerging.

And because of today's vote, you know the last batch was 23,000 pages, the next batch is estimated in the 100,000 - 300,000 page range. I expect it's only going to reinforce the mosaic you can already put together now. So I don't think that conclusion is going to change, it's just going to make it even more undeniable when you look at the spreadsheet.

There are a lot of data points, so I or anyone can't say anything 100% (except the victims & witnesses of course, or if something like vetted photos & videos emerged), but I'm ready to bet that his goose is cooked based on ... well what I just explained.