Starker on 9/4/2025 at 00:31
So, quite predictably, it turns out that the vast majority of the people deported to the El Salvadorian torture prison had no criminal records or accusations, and they were in the US completely legally:
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Trump administration officials have cast the Venezuelan men being deported to a hellish El Salvadoran prison as “terrorists” and gang members. But a recent investigation by 60 Minutes revealed that the vast majority of those men have no known criminal records.
The news program got its hands on a government list of 238 men who were flown to El Salvador's Terrorism Confinement Center (or CECOT) last month without any due process, and despite a court order barring their immediate deportation. After identifying the names on the list, 60 Minutes found that 179 of the men—75% of the names on the list—had no known criminal record in the U.S. or abroad.
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And of the people with criminal accusations, the vast majority had been accused of non-violent crimes like theft and trespassing. Only a handful were accused of more serious crimes such as assault and rape.
Also, some of the "vicious gang members" were included because of things such as posing with makeup brushes on their social media.
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One of those men is a 31-year-old makeup artist named Andry Hernandez Romero, whose lawyer told 60 Minutes he was targeted in Venezuela for being gay and was going through the asylum process in the U.S. The Trump administration has insisted, without providing evidence, that Romero's social media activity suggests he is part of the gang Tren de Agua.
But according to 60 Minutes, a decades' worth of posts revealed mostly glamour shots of Romero posing with beauty queen crowns and makeup brushes. The report also cited a photographer who documented the moments Romero arrived at CECOT, where he was stripped naked, had his head shaved, and cried for his mother as he was slapped by guards.
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And the one guy they admitted that they grabbed completely by mistake, a man who was living legally in the US with his wife and children, now they are saying they just don't want to do anything to get him back, that now suddenly the US is impotent when it comes to dealing with foreign governments.
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But despite its best efforts to prevent its deportation decisions from being scrutinized, the administration's story is quickly unraveling. Already, it has admitted in court to the wrongful deportation of Kilmar Abrego García, a Maryland father who was sent to El Salvador, despite having legal protected status. The administration has called the move an “administrative error,” but has fought against correcting that error. On Monday, the administration appealed to the Supreme Court to block a lower court's order that García be returned to the U.S.
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demagogue on 9/4/2025 at 01:04
Now that they've crossed that line, it's just one little step to US citizens getting detained in a black site/deported without any evidence of crime , as I was saying 6 months ago. Go ahead and call me/us delusional again for worrying about this. The speed with which this farce is happening, it won't be that long until the proof in the pudding.
(Quick google search later.)
Oh yeah...
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https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/trump-leavitt-deporting-us-citizens-el-salvador-sotomayor-rcna200299)
White House floats deporting U.S. citizens. Justice Sotomayor just warned about that.Press secretary Karoline Leavitt mentioned potentially deporting American citizens who are violent repeat offenders “if it's legal.”April 8, 2025, 4:08 PM CDT
By Jordan Rubin
Responding to a question at Tuesday's daily briefing, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt mentioned President Donald Trump's “idea” to potentially deport “violent” and “heinous” U.S. citizens, adding a seemingly important caveat: “If it's legal.”
It's not.
But that doesn't mean it can't happen. Indeed, Justice Sonia Sotomayor warned just a day earlier of the possibility.
Dissenting from the Supreme Court's decision to grant emergency relief to the government in a case about deportations, Sotomayor wrote that the implications of the Trump administration's legal stance is that “not only noncitizens but also United States citizens could be taken off the streets, forced onto planes, and confined to foreign prisons with no opportunity for redress if judicial review is denied unlawfully before removal.”
The possibility also lurks in another appeal pending before the justices, in the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who was erroneously deported to El Salvador. Despite conceding an “administrative error” in sending him to that country, the government has resisted remedying the error. Supporting his return, constitutional scholars wrote to the high court that, if the government's position were correct, then “the Executive Branch would possess a shuddering degree of power — power that the President could wield in extreme and extraordinary ways, including against American citizens that the President simply disfavors.”
Leavitt's comments thus reinforce the importance of the court's forthcoming decision in Abrego Garcia's case, whose consequences could inform just how far this administration will go.
Not to mention...
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Trump Administration Has Detained Citizens as Part of Mass Deportation ActionsA new report doesn't include a definitive list, meaning there are likely many more examples of citizens being detained.
By Chris Walker, Truthout
Published April 7, 2025
President Donald Trump delivers remarks during a Make America Wealthy Again event in the Rose Garden of the White House on April 2, 2025.
Demetrius Freeman / The Washington Post via Getty Images
A new report highlights how at least seven U.S. citizens — but likely far more — have been detained, deported or otherwise targeted by the Trump administration's mass deportation campaign.
According to the report from The Washington Post, at least seven U.S. citizens across the country, including children, have been detained by the federal government's anti-immigrant operations since Trump took office. In some instances, individuals were detained despite showing identification demonstrating their citizenship status.
“As immigration officials become more indiscriminate about who they're targeting — all while they're pressured to deport people faster and to avoid immigration court proceedings — it creates a situation in which the possibility of illegally detaining and deporting a U.S. citizen rises immensely, because citizenship is not something that we can spot on people's foreheads,” said César Cuauhtémoc García Hernández, a law professor at Ohio State University, speaking to The Post.
The publication documented numerous examples of citizens being targeted, including:
A man in Chicago who, after dining at a pizzeria following a day of submitting resumes to potential employers, was detained, handcuffed, and put into a van with other migrants, despite having his Social Security card on his person;
A family with mixed citizenship status detained at a Border Patrol checkpoint in South Texas, as they were rushing their 10-year-old daughter — a U.S. citizen — to the hospital, resulting in their being deported to Mexico, where they currently reside in hiding;
And a Virginia man who, while driving to his job with his coworkers, had his vehicle surrounded by armed immigration officials after they wrongly identified him as a migrant with a different name.
The U.S. government doesn't release data on how often citizens are detained for being suspected of living in the country without legal status. The information obtained by The Post is based on media reports, research institutes and oversight agencies, suggesting that the number of citizens who have been targeted is likely far higher.
Starker on 9/4/2025 at 01:17
Just wait for how they react to the inevitable sustained protests... I don't think there's anybody in the current administration to argue back against suggestions such as shooting the protesters in the legs and quite a few eager to carry out such an order.
Jason Moyer on 9/4/2025 at 02:49
Oh look, a Republican tanked the economy again. That hasn't happened except every single time we've elected one since 1908.
heywood on 9/4/2025 at 11:05
Quote Posted by demagogue
Now that they've crossed that line, it's just one little step to US citizens getting detained in a black site/deported without any evidence of crime , as I was saying 6 months ago. Go ahead and call me/us delusional again for worrying about this. The speed with which this farce is happening, it won't be that long until the proof in the pudding.
(Quick google search later.)
Oh yeah...
Not to mention...
Trump already floated that idea before, right after striking a deal with Bukele to deport people to CECOT. If he stays in power, anyone disloyal is fair game, it's just a matter of priority. Folks who thought you were delusional will cheer it on.
Starker on 9/4/2025 at 23:14
The best people:
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EXCLUSIVE — A Diplomatic Security Service shift supervisor assigned to Secretary of State Marco Rubio's protective detail was arrested by Belgian police at a Brussels hotel last Monday after arguing with hotel staff and fighting with responding police officers. Later that week, Rubio stayed in the same place, Hotel Amigo, while attending NATO's foreign ministers meeting.
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Speaking on condition of anonymity, two sources with direct knowledge of the situation told the Washington Examiner that the agent in question was behaving erratically and became irate when hotel staff refused to reopen the bar beyond its normal hours. When staff, including the night manager, attempted to persuade the agent to return to his room, the agent became physically aggressive. Police were then called. The agent engaged in an altercation with numerous police officers, leading to his arrest. The agent was released from police custody later that day after intervention by the U.S. Embassy.
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Tomi on 12/4/2025 at 08:42
Trump really is more hilarious than any parody site.
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The US president is ordering the energy secretary to rescind a change introduced by Barack Obama that restricted multi-nozzle showers from discharging over 2.5 gallons of water per minute overall.
This served "a radical green agenda that made life worse for Americans", the White House said, as Trump criticised the "ridiculous" amount of time he says it takes to wet his hair in the shower.
I mean, that's pure comedy gold. That's like Hitler complaining about having to spend a ridiculous amount of time to wax his moustache.
Nicker on 12/4/2025 at 20:03
Ve haff vays off makink you Great Again!