Starker on 29/1/2025 at 17:26
Quote Posted by SD
As I said. Amazing. The lengths people will go to defend obvious malpractice simply because it (in their minds) doesn't affect enough people (despite the numbers growing exponentially - in itself a cause for alarm).
You don't even know whether this is malpractice or not, because you have zero idea why these treatments are done or the circumstances behind it. You are just assuming.
Again, your argument is that this should be a huge issue that deserves national level attention, but this is only a handful of people and from all we can tell, it's done by their own initiative, and they are not the ones complaining.
Cipheron on 29/1/2025 at 17:33
Plus, nobody is defending the treatments or having an opinion on that.
What I'm talking about is the belief that if the Democrats don't copy the Republican policy, that's why they lost.
The Republicans only started passing these laws about it in the last 3 years roughly. When Trump was in office they didn't give any shits about it back then, despite numbers apparently increasing steeply between 2017-2020.
It only became a **political** issue because Trump lost the 2020 election, so they needed a wedge issue to drive the next election cycle.
Yes, the Democrats could have copied what the Republicans are doing with the trans-hysteria and passed their own laws against this stuff, but if you do that you're only ever playing catch-up and they'll just push even more extreme laws or even more extreme fear-mongering to get ahead of you.
but, if it wasn't this, it would have been any one of a million other crazy ideas they could come up with that you'd be battling.
Keep in mind the reality of the numbers you presented is that about
1 in 5 million Americans had genital surgery before the age of 18. It's a vanishingly small number of people and we don't know the circumstances for any of them.
Keep in mind your own quote:
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The Komodo analysis of insurance claims found 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17 with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2019 to 2021.
... from that, we don't know whether the surgery was even related to the diagnosis. Presumably some amount of people need surgery for different reasons who *didn't* have such a diagnosis, so you'd need to know the overall rate for the surgeries among the population, then you can check the number of excess surgeries for that group, and you'd have a better estimate of whether these facts are even related.
I mean, if dozens of kids per year were getting full male to female surgeries while
still in high school you'd definitely be hearing more about individuals that did that, so it pays to be skeptical unless there are additional types of corroborating evidence.
Starker on 29/1/2025 at 17:47
Also, it's funny how the party of personal freedom and personal responsibility has now gone full in on banning things -- banning books, banning abortions, banning medical treatments that are done with the approval of everyone involved (including, apparently, the insurance companies, which is probably the most mind-boggling aspect in all of this).
Once again the most pressing issue in conservatives' minds seems to be that someone else is doing something they don't approve of -- quelle surprise.
SD on 29/1/2025 at 17:54
Quote Posted by Cipheron
trans-hysteria
I am sure calling it this helps with the cognitive dissonance involved in supporting the sterilising of children, it however ignores that many of the strongest voices against this practice have been trans people, like the awesome Buck Angel. Spend a few minutes seeing what he says about it all. Educate yourself.
CradleCity on 29/1/2025 at 17:55
At this point, anyone who complains about trans matters, or the price of eggs, or cancel culture, etc., is bullshtting to conceal their true intent and emotions.
The people currently in power in the US are are going scorched earth on lots of policies in order to cause unrest. The people who voted for them are either: a) firmly in sunken cost mode, and will continue to adore them (well, him, mostly) even if they suffer from everything that he's signing at the moment; b) feel regret, and will try (and likely fail) to walk away from it; or c) pretend they never supported this or that that is affecting them.
In the meantime, from my country, I'll continue to watch leopards eating their faces. The folks voted for them, because they let their fear and paranoia and desire for a 'strong man' take over their minds, and paid no attention to the dark designs of the man and those who are behind the curtain, in particular.
It's darkly ironic to see the US making the mistakes that some European countries made in the previous century. If the course is not altered, then a dictatorship in all but name will become firmly established. Not so different from Russia, for example (compare the oligarchs that supported Putin in his rise to absolute power with the tech oligarchs that are supporting the newly-elected US president, for example).
Aja on 29/1/2025 at 19:07
Quote Posted by SD
In the three years ending in 2021, at least 776 mastectomies were performed in the United States on patients ages 13 to 17 with a gender dysphoria diagnosis, according to Komodo's data analysis of insurance claims.And of those 776, (
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9555285/) only two expressed regret over the procedure, and neither underwent reversal surgery. It's also not clear whether all the mastectomies were done specifically to treat gender dysphoria; the data only specifies that a diagnosis of dysphoria was present in all cases. It doesn't exclude breast cancer or other conditions.
Starker on 30/1/2025 at 01:40
As if on cue, there's a Some More News video about the trans panic, demystifying the whole thing with some actual science (such as the regret rate of transitioning being several times less than that of successful knee surgeries) and debunking myths that are commonly being trotted out (such as the supposed exponential growth of the phenomenon):
[video=youtube;mlkBa7ooUN4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlkBa7ooUN4[/video]
lowenz on 30/1/2025 at 09:34
Quote Posted by DuatDweller
don't throw away your power of reproduction.
Yeah, get more slaves to the system and the system will thank you to make it more strong.....oh wait, it doens't even need to thank you if strong enough :D
If you think that's a power.....just see what's happening to ukranians and russians. Maybe you don't realize why states need "people" and how the real (nor imaginative) power works.
You fall for the same romantic narrative as the "leftists", just inverted.
People are needed to 1) make goods and money 2) die when needed 3) perpetuate the cycle
So much for the "patriotic spiritual awakening".
Qooper on 30/1/2025 at 15:32
Quote Posted by lowenz
Yeah, get more slaves to the system and the system will thank you to make it more strong.....oh wait, it doens't even need to thank you if strong enough :D
DuatDweller made an excellent point. He wanted to remind us how precious it is to be able to have children. Your point seems to be not to have kids, because the world we live in is full of systems that exploit us. If you don't mind me asking, do you have family?
Starker on 30/1/2025 at 16:52
In an attempt to create a sequel to
Papers, Please, not only US citizens, but even natives are being swept up in the "mass deportation" raids:
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-immigration-raids-citizens-profiling-accusations-native-american-rcna189203)
American citizens, including citizens of Native tribal nations, have been pulled into the vast immigration operations ordered by President Donald Trump in accordance with his campaign vow to conduct mass deportations since Day 1.
Those who are getting caught in Immigrations and Customs Enforcement raids are being targeted because of their race or skin color, according to witnesses.
The Navajo Nation Office was flooded with calls from tribal members living off-reservation, with many reporting being questioned about their identity by ICE officers, Native News Online reported.
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