nemyax on 27/1/2025 at 15:45
Quote Posted by Starker
Treating people as faulty goods when they are not is a big part of the problem
Therefore, when your nationals get deported for any reason, you let them in first and complain later.
 
RippedPhreak on 27/1/2025 at 15:46
Oh fuck off dipshit. Everything is "hurrrrr KKK" or "hurrrr Nazi" to you assholes. The NPCs need to get issued a new script I guess.  If you can't make an argument without doing the tourette's syndrome gurgling "Hitler! Hitler! Hitler!" while twitching, then you don't have an argument at all.
When I say your side screwed it up, what I mean is: 
Ludicrous levels of government spending on things that don't benefit us
Endless mass immigration to push down wages and increase crime, overstress our systems like schools and hospitals
Globalist free trade to push down wages and remove jobs for the middle class
Endless wars
To jump up on your moral high horse and pompously sneer that all I want is to bring back lynchings...wow.  Just fucking WOW.
heywood on 27/1/2025 at 15:48
Quote Posted by nemyax
Therefore, when your nationals get deported for any reason, you let them in first and complain later.
I agree with this because the alternative is stateless people, which is worse.
 
RippedPhreak on 27/1/2025 at 15:48
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Therefore, when your nationals get deported for any reason, you let them in first and complain later.
These countries don't want them back because they are face-tatted cartel assassins. Rapists, murderers, drug runners etc.  Which begs the question: why did the Biden admin want American families to have to live next to them?
 
Starker on 27/1/2025 at 15:49
I'm not saying that what the Colombian president did is good politics, but let's not pretend as if the US got some kind of a huge win here.
Starker on 27/1/2025 at 16:04
Quote Posted by RippedPhreak
These countries don't want them back because they are face-tatted cartel assassins. Rapists, murderers, drug runners etc.  Which begs the question: why did the Biden admin want American families to have to live next to them?
One of the Brazilian deportees, for example, was a computer technician. Would you not want someone who can fix your computer living next to you?
Also, they don't look like face-tatted cartel assassins to me:
[video=youtube;GeYKIW5v6QA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeYKIW5v6QA[/video]
 
RippedPhreak on 27/1/2025 at 16:13
I can fix it myself, or I'm sure I can find an American who can do it. Unless there is some super specialized job that NO American can do (building a large hadron collider or something crazy) then we should have no immigrants whatsoever.
Starker on 27/1/2025 at 16:19
The problem is that US citizens don't want to do these jobs, because you can't or don't want to pay them enough to do it.
Unless you take care of the problem at the root (which is to fine and/or jail every farmer, every business owner, every parent who hires illegal immigrants), you will always have an enormous demand for immigration.
RippedPhreak on 27/1/2025 at 16:28
You've got it backward. If there is a tremendous oversupply of new workers every year, desperate to take any job for a low wage, of course wages will go down. So to make sure people can earn a living wage, you must restrict the supply of new workers. If an ocean shipping container full of diamonds arrived at New York's dock every day, what would happen to the price of diamonds?
And sure I would love to punish the employers too.
heywood on 27/1/2025 at 16:28
Quote Posted by RippedPhreak
Oh fuck off dipshit. Everything is "hurrrrr KKK" or "hurrrr Nazi" to you assholes. The NPCs need to get issued a new script I guess.  If you can't make an argument without doing the tourette's syndrome gurgling "Hitler! Hitler! Hitler!" while twitching, then you don't 
have an argument at all.
When I say your side screwed it up, what I mean is: 
Ludicrous levels of government spending on things that don't benefit us
Endless mass immigration to push down wages and increase crime, overstress our systems like schools and hospitals
Globalist free trade to push down wages and remove jobs for the middle class
Endless wars
To jump up on your moral high horse and pompously sneer that all I want is to bring back lynchings...wow.  Just fucking WOW.
I am pointing out things that are obvious to anyone who remembers their high school US history class.  You just don't seem to understand who or what you voted for.
I'm with you on deficit spending and public debt.  I also think our immigration system and policies are completely broken.  And I'm not in favor of sending our young men and women into expeditionary wars for dubious benefit.  But Trump isn't going to solve any of those things.  Trump is right now advocating for the elimination of the debt ceiling, and trying to press Powell into going on another money-printing binge, which along with tariffs and broken trade relationships will directly lead to another inflationary period and depression.  Trump isn't going to fix immigration either.  He can't because his party is controlled by business interests who employ immigrants for cheap labor.  He can make a show out of deporting some people, but like the wall it's just symbolic.  Look at Texas as the example.  The public face of state government is anti-immigration, but 8% of Texas' workforce is illegal (second highest percentage behind Nevada) and the businesses who employ them are basically untouchable because if they revolt, the Republican leadership in Texas will be out of power.  Finally, it wasn't Democrats who started the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.  Democrats aren't the ones talking about invading Panama, Mexico, and Greenland.
Regarding lynchings and the KKK, Trump just pardoned the people who erected a gallows and noose on the Capitol, and he openly calls these white supremacist groups "my people".