lowenz on 21/1/2025 at 20:35
Quote Posted by RippedPhreak
is why your side lost.
And that's the one and only refrain of the Right.
We all know that's NOT an error, the roman salute is just trolling+appeasement, trolling because *today* it's associated with nazism, appeasement because it's the ROMAN salute -> "emperor Trump"
RippedPhreak on 21/1/2025 at 20:37
It's a simple fact that a political party cannot win if it offers nothing to the people except negative finger-pointing at the other side.
heywood on 21/1/2025 at 20:45
Obviously that was a calculated move and not just some mistake we're blowing out of proportion. It was a signal to all the neo-Nazi groups in the country that Trump's got your back. The other signal was pardoning all of those involved in the insurrection, even the guys who tried to kill Capitol police.
The reason for the signals is that he needs a loyal army of mercenaries to stay in power after his term is up. He learned last time that he can't trust the law enforcement agencies or military to throw aside the law and take out who he wants. That's why he's so keen on gutting them and replacing them with loyalists, not oath takers. But ultimately, the only people he can count on are amoral scumbags who owe him their freedom. In his own words, those are his people.
BTW, don't bother trying to convince Vae that Trump is a fascist. He's not stupid, he already knows that. That's what he wants.
RippedPhreak on 21/1/2025 at 21:16
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It was a signal to all the neo-Nazi groups in the country
According to the SPLC, there are approximately 13,000 neo-nazis in the USA. A
furry convention in Pittsburgh last year attracted
17,000 people. Wetting your pants over the pervasive neo-nazis surrounding you everywhere seems a bit silly.
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The other signal was pardoning all of those involved in the insurrection
Reminder that
absolutely no one cares about Jan 6th. Again, banging on about Jan 6th for four straight years instead of doing anything to help struggling Americans is why the Dems lost.
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he's so keen on gutting them and replacing them with loyalists, not oath takers.
Are these the same "oath takers" that made up the Russian hooker piss tape, the Russian Collusion plot that flipped the 2016 election, swore up and down that the Hunter Biden laptop did not exist and swore that Joe Biden was sharp as a tack right up until the moment he was exposed as non compos mentis on live television?
heywood on 21/1/2025 at 22:01
I believe you are being disingenuous now.
Also, it's easy to guess why Musk was willing to go there. His goal is to get rid of the Constitution so he can become the leader.
BTW, about 1500 people nearly pulled off a coup 4 years ago. Nobody really knows how big the numbers are now because they've been laying low during the Biden administration. Now that Trump is back the ranks will swell.
Tocky on 22/1/2025 at 02:54
Quote Posted by heywood
I believe you are being disingenuous now.
Of course he is. He knows that 13,000 declared neo-nazis are the visible tip of an iceberg. He knows Republicans don't care about January 6th because they don't really care about the vote counting and the constitutional turnover of power as long as Trump can do anything he wants. He knows Trump did nothing for struggling Americans the first term, only the non struggling tax cuts for millionaires. Then of course he knows the piss tape was only a believable rumor touted by a few until nothing came of it but the payoff to a porn star he humped while his wife was pregnant is true and that Russians mounted a facebook campaign in 2016 to elect Trump and Trump paid Putin back by saying on TV that he trusted Putin over his own people. He knows the Hunter laptop only showed dick picks and that Hunter bought a gun when he was not legal to do so.
Lastly he knows that Biden is having some problems in cognizance due to age but blows those out of proportion because Trump is always saying crazy shit and he needs to cover for him.
We all know this. He does too. He doesn't have to be honest about it. No Republican ever is.
DuatDweller on 22/1/2025 at 07:08
So what's wrong with being a National Socialist member......
Ah you fell for it.
:cheeky:
Starker on 22/1/2025 at 08:25
Quote Posted by Vae
Now even Taylor Swift has become a Nazi!...:grr:
We've caught her red-handed!...Now we know she is fascist and bad!...:mad:
It's clear you're just a dishonest troll, but here's a video where she's making that gesture and it's nothing like a Nazi salute. You just grabbed a freeze frame that makes it superficially look like it.
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https://youtu.be/FuU-bT9BJpc?si=HjzT85BjcTkXD_8E&t=259)
Also, you try to make it seem as if it's just about one gesture or two, but Swift hasn't unbanned actual Nazis on Twitter and she hasn't promoted Nazi talking points.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/x-twitter-elon-musk-nazi-extremist-white-nationalist-accounts-rcna145020)
Elon Musk's X is a thriving hub for Nazi support and propaganda, with paid subscribers sharing speeches by Adolf Hitler or content praising his genocidal regime.
NBC News found that at least 150 paid “Premium” subscriber X accounts and thousands of unpaid accounts have posted or amplified pro-Nazi content on X in recent months, often in apparent violation of X's rules. The paid accounts posting the content all consistently posted antisemitic or pro-Nazi material. Examples included praise of Nazi soldiers, sharing of Nazi symbols and denials of the Holocaust.
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Rather than crack down on antisemitic posts, Musk has used his massive platform to promote antisemitic conspiracy theories. Last year, he embraced the concept of the “great replacement,” which says there is a top-down plot to replace the white population with nonwhite people.
lowenz on 22/1/2025 at 10:35
Musk just thinks he can you "nazi obessions" (nazi obsessions AND the ones of who are against them) to make money and gain power (=ego boost)......but it's a risky game.
