Nicker on 9/8/2024 at 01:03
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No one can ever tell me what Trump should have done differently during Covid.
He could have enacted the science based and comprehensive protocols, established by the Obama Administration. He could have left the decisions to science and the medical experts,
but nobody in the whole world knows more about infectious diseases and pandemics than Donald "it will all disappear like a miracle" tRump.(
https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/17/the-art-of-the-pandemic-how-donald-trump-walked-the-u-s-into-the-covid-19-era/) https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/17/the-art-of-the-pandemic-how-donald-trump-walked-the-u-s-into-the-covid-19-era/
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What Trump did for Covid was put Fauci, Birks and Walensky from CDC in charge, with carte blanche to do anything they wanted.
BULLSHIT! tRump got in the way. His family stole PPE and hoarded it for resale or to hand out as favours to political allies. He had his family and administration vaccinated then told Americans that the vaccines were dangerous. He told them to drink bleach, get some UV light inside their bodies by, who knows, shoving sunlamps up their asses.
He knowingly had COVID while attending a debate with Biden.
tRump was so fucking stupid, he toured a mask factory, picked up a tray of a hundred sterile masks, pawed it with his filthy little hands and put it back down. What an absolute clueless, gormless fuckwit.
And you worship him. You worship a rapist who stole money from dying children. Why, Phreaky? Why won't you answer that question? Do you ever post without lying?
RippedPhreak on 9/8/2024 at 01:26
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what benefit does giving massive tax breaks to the wealthy and ultrawealthy give, exactly?
Letting someone keep more of
their own money is not a giveaway. The wealthy run businesses and employ people in jobs. If you take more of their money, they will employ fewer people. Possibly just leave the country. Look up the Laffer Curve.
If someone has become wealthy by breaking the law, fine. Investigate and hold them accountable in court. All I see is greedy, envious people wanting to tear down others just because they are successful. Decades ago there was once something of an argument for jacking taxes higher. But with our current crop of politicians, we know that they will either waste the money on bullshit, hand it out to their friends and donors (i.e. weapons contractors), or stuff it in their own pockets. Might as well just let us keep as much of our money as possible, since they aren't going to use it to help us anyway.
On edit: I agree there should be no government special favors to corporations or lobbying influence on the government
from corporations. I think the incestuous relationship between big business and government needs to end. But
both parties are in that armpit-deep. Trying to say the Repubs are the only ones doing it is naive. How did Nancy Pelosi reach a net worth of hundreds of millions of dollars based on her 250k a year salary again...?
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making it easier for big financial institutions to gamble with people's money without any consequences.
Agreed but Obama bailed out the big banks, did nothing to hold them accountable for gambling our money away, and today those same people still are doing the same shit. Again, neither party wants to upset that applecart.
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there's nobody who's more anti-union than the Republicans
In the sense that the Repubs are ALSO in favor of importing illegal labor to undercut union wages I would agree. I don't like the Republicans in general.
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Minimum wage increase is widely supported by US citizens
Yes, if you keep telling economically ignorant people that they can get free money without consequences, they will "widely support" it. But there ARE consequences. People are fleeing states like California because you can't run a business there.
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He knowingly had COVID while attending a debate with Biden.
Biden lived. Guess it wasn't that dangerous then.
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he toured a mask factory, picked up a tray of a hundred sterile masks
Yeah I guess that's what killed 50 gorillion Americans huh? You finally solved the mystery. Wipe the foam off your chin, you sad, angry little man.
Starker on 9/8/2024 at 02:11
The ultrarich don't give a damn about creating jobs or improving the lives of workers. They only think about how to maximise their profit, laying off people in mass if it means improving their already massive profits just a little bit while making sure their workers get as little benefits and wages as possible.
Democrats are the ones who are in favour of regulating the banking industry and the top elite, so that they don't go out of control all that often. Republicans want to give them a free pass every single time. While Obama could have let the banks go bust, that would also have meant disastrous consequences for the entire economy and, as for accountability, it was under Obama that Dodd-Frank was enacted and Consumer Financial Protection Bureau was established. Which, btw, Lord Dampnut did his best to defang and cripple and that is one of the agencies on the chopping block in Project 2025. Cause can't let consumers get back their money from being robbed by unscrupulous financial institutions, apparently.
As for Republican tax cuts, it's not just about letting people keep their money, though, is it? It's about increasing the rate in which the wealthiest of people get richer while the ordinary people have their wages stagnate. Democrats want to slow down the rate at which the top elite gets richer a little bit while Republicans want to massively increase it. It's the Republicans who drastically cut the Estate Tax for the wealthiest of people, for example.
And the results of the Republican tax cuts have been already seen over and over again -- Reagan faced a shortfall of tax revenues after he cut taxes and plunged the country into massive debt from which it has not recovered to this day and Republicans later had to increase taxes again, including in the next administration of Bush. The Laffer Curve is an unproven idea scribbled on a napkin that has never been shown to work and both empirical analyses and modelling show that cutting the taxes would do not increase revenues, but in fact result in budget deficits both short and long term. Which is what keeps happening in pretty much every Republican administration that does tax cuts -- the missing revenue simply has to paid by someone else at a much higher cost. And that someone else is usually the people at the bottom who pay it in the form of indirect taxes and by having to pay out of pocket for services that get more expensive as a result.
There are services (such as health care, education, prisons) where cutting corners and maximising profit as much as possible does not work out for the little people and turns out to be massively more expensive in the long run. Which is why the US has one of the most costly health care systems in the world (more than twice that of other wealthy countries), one of the largest prison populations and recidivism rates, and is struggling to keep up with other countries' educational performance outside of top universities, especially in math and science.
Nicker on 9/8/2024 at 04:53
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Biden lived. Guess it wasn't that dangerous then.
Someone takes a few shots at you and misses. I guess there was no harm in them trying, right?
Right?
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Yeah I guess that's what killed 50 gorillion Americans huh? You finally solved the mystery. Wipe the foam off your chin, you sad, angry little man.
Just one example among thousands of examples oh how fucking clueless he is. And your posts stand as a continued record of how devoid of common sense, honesty and morality you are.
Also noting that you are too cowardly to own up to your choices.
Starker on 9/8/2024 at 05:58
Turns out that Lord Dampnut praised Walz's handling of the Minneapolis unrest at the time:
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MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — While former President Donald Trump and running mate JD Vance have been hammering Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz over his response to the violence that erupted after George Floyd's murder, Trump told the governor at the time that he fully agreed with how Walz handled it.
“What they did in Minneapolis was incredible. They went in and dominated, and it happened immediately,” Trump told Walz and other governors and officials in a phone call on June 1, 2020. The Associated Press on Wednesday obtained an audio recording of the call, which has taken on new significance now that Walz has been tapped as Vice President Kamala Harris' running mate against Trump and Vance.
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Starker on 9/8/2024 at 08:23
Lord Dampnut holds a.... let's call it a press conference, for the lack of a better word:
[video=youtube;jcsncEfRpgs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcsncEfRpgs[/video]
People here have talked about how the Harris-Walz campaign seems to them to be patronizing and over the top, but I'm wondering whether, on the flipside, this kind of messaging is effective to anyone outside of his die hard supporters? Does this in any shape or form alleviate the concerns of moderates and independents? Does it have any potential to sway anyone who voted for Brandon 4 years ago or encourage people who voted for Lord Dampnut to show up again?
Nicker on 9/8/2024 at 08:53
On the matter of tRump's "emergency press conference", Lawrence O'Donnell takes the press to task (including his own MSNBC) for politely lapping up an hour of Trump lies without a single real-time fact check, while ignoring Kamala Harris' speech and haranguing President Biden over a minor misquote. As he titles the piece, "2016 All Over Again".
Serial lying has become so normalized, some guests here feel justified to do nothing but. But I digress...
[video=youtube;ZD-oTJ49nls]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD-oTJ49nls[/video]
A little palate cleanser : The top 10 (plus-plus with bonus round) stupid things that tRump has said (in the last decade).
[video=youtube;-uEyVaEJzy4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uEyVaEJzy4[/video]
Al_B on 12/8/2024 at 20:03
This thread has been temporarily closed for a few weeks and will be re-opened in September. For Trump related discussion on the upcoming US Election please use (
https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152707) this thread going forward, thanks!
demagogue on 12/12/2024 at 20:27
Have patience and let's give him some time. He'll become Hitler when he starts arbitrarily detaining trans people, homeless, journalists, & his critics and such, in the detention camps they're building for the mass deportations that are really just going to be mass incarcerations. It's what he wants & has committed to do; so really whether he becomes Hitler or not will be in other people's control, if they're left to get away with it.
