Cipheron on 2/8/2023 at 00:18
US Cops for ya:
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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/01/politics/texas-congressman-detained-ronny-jackson/index.html)
Quote:
In a Facebook post, Linda Dianne Shouse, a home healthcare and traveling nurse, said her 15-year-old relative was “seizing due to possible hypoglycemia” Saturday night at the White Deer rodeo, about 45 miles northeast of Amarillo, Texas. Jackson represents the Amarillo area and was an attendee at the rodeo.
Shouse said she and another family member, who is also a nurse, were attending to the girl when Jackson, who is an ER physician, stepped in to assist. Shouse said she didn't know Jackson was a congressman at the time but told CNN they were all working together to help the teen girl.
“We were just waiting for EMS to get there. The police came up, the deputies, highway patrol, and everyone was just screaming, ‘Get back, get back, get back,'” she said during an interview.
Shouse said she was pushed back and then punched in the chest by a woman and said she saw a law enforcement official screaming in Jackson's face, telling him to “Get the f**k back.”
“He was trying to tell them that he was a doctor and probably trying to tell him who he was, to be honest. And they were screaming that they did not effing care who he was,” she said. “And the next thing I knew, they had him on the ground, grabbed him by the shirt, threw him on the ground, face first into the concrete and had him in cuffs.”
Shouse said
once they realized Jackson was a congressman and doctor, they uncuffed him and started apologizing. Quote:
... Shouse said, recalling what she described as a “loud, chaotic” situation.
It sounds like the situation was perfectly under control until the cops showed up. Good job guys.
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Reminds of a story from New York. To protest against new rules, the local police initiated a "slow down" and only engaged in essential work. The idea is that the city would come begging them to return to their duties. In the period, major crimes actually fell.
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https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/nyc-cops-did-a-work-stop-yet-crime-dropped/)
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In late 2014 and early 2015, escalating tensions in New York City led to the NYPD staging a slowdown in which the department performed only its most essential duties. That might be expected to lead to an increase in crime, but a new analysis of official statistics shows the opposite: a significant drop in major crime for the period of the slowdown.
So they still did major investigations etc but stopped doing stuff that can best be described as harassment and intimidation of the general populace. This and the one above kind of show how the police work themselves into a job: painting themselves as the solution to the very problems they themselves contribute to.
Nicker on 2/8/2023 at 00:27
But isn't the problem in the USA, too much WOKENESS?
Starker on 2/8/2023 at 06:18
The interesting part in this third indictment is that they planned to violently suppress any protests after the coup. The US was probably closer to a civil war than at any point in modern history. Once the killing starts, things can escalate very quickly and irreversably.
lowenz on 2/8/2023 at 09:59
Quote Posted by Cipheron
So they still did major investigations etc but stopped doing stuff that can best be described as harassment and intimidation of the general populace. This and the one above kind of show how
the police work themselves into a job: painting themselves as the solution to the very problems they themselves contribute to.
Exactly.
"We need more security"=we justify this dynamic thanks to people fears.
heywood on 2/8/2023 at 10:02
Quote Posted by Cipheron
Reminds of a story from New York. To protest against new rules, the local police initiated a "slow down" and only engaged in essential work. The idea is that the city would come begging them to return to their duties. In the period, major crimes actually fell.
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https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/nyc-cops-did-a-work-stop-yet-crime-dropped/)
So they still did major investigations etc but stopped doing stuff that can best be described as harassment and intimidation of the general populace. This and the one above kind of show how the police work themselves into a job: painting themselves as the solution to the very problems they themselves contribute to.
We can't assume that crime actually went down in a situation like this, where the police protested the protests by conducting a mini-strike at the same time the neighborhoods where the most crime is occurring didn't want the police around because they considered them the enemy.
Starker on 2/8/2023 at 15:09
I mean, it's not like the police necessarily prevent crimes in the first place. And cops in the US seem to be doing way less of it than the cops in some of the other parts of the world.
heywood on 2/8/2023 at 16:50
Well, crime prevention requires a lot of community engagement, something the NYPD isn't good at or enthusiastic about. They've got a confrontational attitude with just about everybody.
demagogue on 5/8/2023 at 17:43
There's not much wiggle room Trump has in his defenses for the Jan. 6 Conspiracy charges that haven't already been dismissed by courts for the rioters already prosecuted for them. He wasn't in the capitol building or bashing police officers and there's a question whether he literally ordered them in, there's some wiggle room, but he was very intentionally making the phone calls at the time and taking other similar steps that were the entire purpose of the rioters being in the building and bashing police officers according to the pre-arranged plan. That still looks like criminal conspiracy, baby.
I think this video did a good job walking through the whole thing.
[video=youtube;SbIhNmoZLJQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbIhNmoZLJQ[/video]
Nicker on 6/8/2023 at 07:28
Starting about 3m55s of this video is a segment contrasting the traditional and peaceful transfer of power with the criminal whining of Rump.
[video=youtube;B2Gf0Up1wFk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Gf0Up1wFk[/video]
heywood on 8/8/2023 at 15:48
Unfortunately, that's lost on the majority of Republicans who genuinely believe that the 2020 election was rigged by Democrats and Trump really is the victim of a vast conspiracy, because that's all they hear from the media they follow. Just yesterday, DeSantis said “Of course he lost.” and "Of course. Joe Biden's the president," but good luck finding that bit of news on Fox, OAN, or Newsmax right now because they're scared of being boycotted next.
