RippedPhreak on 9/5/2023 at 20:47
Antifa will gather to attack anyone who's designated an enemy by The Regime. You'll have college students invite someone as moderate/milquetoast as Ben Shapiro to speak, and here comes antifa swinging baseball bats to crack skulls of random people who showed up.
I know that antifa are an arm of The Regime since whenever they are arrested, they are mysteriously back out on the streets within hours - no consequences. Whereas right-wingers who fight in the streets get decades in prison.
Tocky on 10/5/2023 at 03:35
I guess the fact that none of what you said is true matters to you so take your secret decoder ring and use it on the next New York Times edition to find out when THE REGIME meets and bring a glove and ball to play with ANTIFA. I mean, damn man, ANTIFA are in jail after making bail and then going to trial same as right wingers who do violence. Decades though? No. Only seditionists committing treason get that. And they should. Being a traitor to the electoral process is treason. Or do you mean when they run down and kill people like at Charlotte? Either way, most everyone is back out on bail for a time. It's always good not to commit murder or treason and get off light. It's a tad different with common ordinary violence where no one is permanently injured or dead.
lowenz on 11/5/2023 at 15:14
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The whole "antifa doesn't exist" is a laughable fiction that tries to cover up that
they are a Democrat-party backed (and funded) paramilitary force, sent out to keep conservatives from gathering in public.
LOL
In what alternate reality are you living?
"Antifa" are antifascists by definition,
just keep the fascists away from conservatives. Oh wait, it's impossible nowdays because a classic conservative IS a.....liberal, so the real conservatives are now labeles "libtards" too.
RippedPhreak on 11/5/2023 at 16:11
A violent group that beats the government's political opponents in the street IS fascist.
Tocky on 11/5/2023 at 16:25
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A violent group that beats the government's political opponents in the street IS fascist.
That would work if they hadn't also been violent prior to the current president when they were not for that government being racist and did not support it. They are not against or for governments. They face racists and Nazis and meet violence with violence. Why whine about anyone doing that if one isn't a racist or Nazi?
lowenz on 11/5/2023 at 16:39
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A violent group that beats the government's political opponents in the street IS fascist.
Just take back the equivalence "conservative=liberal" and the problem get solved by itself.
Oh wait, that's impossible for the US right now that it has comprised the noun "liberal" and so we are past the point of no return and the Right is just prisoner of its own antiliberal (fascist) rhethoric.
RippedPhreak on 11/5/2023 at 17:03
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That would work if they hadn't also been violent prior to the current president when they were not for that government being racist and did not support it. They are not against or for governments. They face racists and Nazis and meet violence with violence. Why whine about anyone doing that if one isn't a racist or Nazi?
Firstly, at least you admit that antifa
exists, and that they are violent. We're making progress here!
Just because Trump became President does not mean the entire government suddenly flipped and became "rightist." The permanent bureaucracy did not support Trump's goals and actively worked against him. I mean, the FBI was wire tapping and investigating him before he even took office. The military withheld information from him and flat-out lied to him.
When Paul Ryan and the Republican Congress came up with a 2017 budget, it specifically prohibited using any money for a wall on the border (looking at the border today, a wall now looks like a great idea huh?). More than 40 Republican Representatives members resigned in 2018 rather than run for re-election alongside Trump, thus the Republicans lost the House. So: Both political parties were 100% opposed to Trump since day one. If both of these disgusting grifter parties hate the man, he must be doing something right.
Antifa serves the permanent government that is not elected and never changes. They do not merely "face Nazis" because the supply of Nazis is so tiny that people have to make up hoaxes (i.e. Bubba Wallace racecar garage rope, Jussie Smollett lynching) in order to convince you that they are under every bush. Antifa seeks out the enemies of the Leftist regime and attacks them in the streets for doing nothing but talking or standing around with signs: (
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Just take back the equivalence "conservative=liberal" and the problem get solved by itself.
Oh wait, that's impossible for the US right now that it has comprised the noun "liberal" and so we are past the point of no return and the Right is just prisoner of its own antiliberal (fascist) rhethoric.
I can't even parse this. Pure word salad.
Tocky on 11/5/2023 at 20:08
They loosely exist. It's just whoever shows up to stand against racists and Nazis. No meetings in back rooms are any of that conspiracy crap. Nobody funds them.
Everyone was a little embarrassed of Trump. We hadn't elected an egomaniac demagogue with a third grade bully thinking style before. The FBI was wiretapping Russia like they always do and he was allowing a Russian money launderer to stay at his hotel and they checked for links. Also the military held breifings every morning which he would not attend and would not read their briefs.
Paul Ryan pushed for social security cuts and the wall that was built is being climbed over.
Antifa serves no government. It serves against any fascism anywhere.
You got some crazy patter. Did you pick it up on Q or 4chan?
Starker on 12/5/2023 at 05:45
Yeah, there's such a low supply on nazis in the US that they only parade around with tiki torches while chanting, "Jews will not replace us!" and hold, um, what was it called again? Oh yeah, Unite the Right rallies. Curious naming choice right there. Not to mention all the crypto-fascists who hide their power level while peddling white supremacist talking points about white replacement and whatnot right on prime time television.
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I can't even parse this. Pure word salad.
Stop petersoning
The GOP (Good Old Party) is the party of LIBERAL CONSERVATIVES by definition. It just stopped to be this thing after the fall of URSS and so no more "Communism Existential Danger". Because it can't electorally sell itself without "Communism", it did take some other survival strategies (all the classic fascist "
wipe out the libtards" and related identitarian politics): the thing is these strategies just killed its soul and there's no going back.
Maybe you don't undestand that "liberal" is just "anticommunist" (being the real communism authoritarian) so all your "deductions" are dead wrong.
All the parties in USA are "liberal" by the book, you US citizens just don't understand it and so some wicked spin doctor began to use "liberal" as opposite to "conservative" 'cause the authoritarian/identitarian fascination just pay in elections.
There's no word salad, there's the political reality after '89.
So the "fight for freedom" just become the "fight for the nation" and of course "antifa" (the old internationalists / trotskyists) become the enemies declined in several aspects....just like in Europe the "international jews bankers" (->Ford) were for centuries.
You simply don't know history and reality of how politics work.
