Cipheron on 31/10/2022 at 16:01
Quote Posted by demagogue
(Elon boosted the conspiracy, which is another insane story.)
Yeah we sorta touched on that a few posts back, but the big irony here is the timing for this from Elon Musk, just days after he sacked Twitter's head of moderation.
Plus, he boosted the story as a rebuttal to Hillary Clinton talking about how the attacker was radicalized by right-wing conspiracies by saying "not so fast" then presenting stuff from the right-wing conspiracy site mentioned above.
Basically there are multiple ways this makes everything Elon has been saying and doing look stupid.
Starker on 31/10/2022 at 17:43
I mean, apparently the man himself does not entirely disagree... though he is still quite modest about it...
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddawkins/2019/10/09/elon-musk-brands-himself-an-idiot-in-thai-cave-rescue-defamation-lawsuit/?sh=102e5880462b)
Billionaire Elon Musk has described himself as “an ... idiot” for his handling of the PR disaster that followed from his tweet calling a British cave diver “pedo guy” in 2018.
Musk's comments were disclosed in court papers from Vernon Unsworth's defamation lawsuit against the Tesla founder. In the documents, Musk is described as “a thin-skinned billionaire who is obsessed with his public image and who has a history of vindictively and intentionally ignoring truth to maintain that PR-created image.”
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Unsworth's lawyers claim in the documents that Musk hired a convicted felon, who claimed to be private investigator, to look into the diver's personal life and that he tried to leak negative stories about the British diver to the British and Australian media.
Unsworth's lawyers also allege that Musk renewed his attack by emailing a Buzzfeed reporter with false accusations that their client was a “child rapist with a 12-year-old child bride,” which were then published by the website.
Musk claimed that the emails were off the record and that he merely intended to trigger a press investigation into Unsworth. “I didn't expect Buzzfeed to publish an off-the-record email. My intent was to have them investigate and come to their own conclusions, not publish my email directly. ... Still, I'm a fucking idiot,” said Musk, in correspondence with his on-retainer PR agent revealed in the court documents.
Musk adds, “I . . . responded in what I felt was off the record. In the past, Buzzfeed has respected emails prefaced with ‘off the record,' but this time they did not. It was still one of the dumbest things I've ever done.”
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Starker on 1/11/2022 at 03:29
From court documents, it appears that the man who assaulted Pelosi's husband didn't want to kill Pelosi, but "only" to take her hostage and break her kneecaps. In any case, he's been charged with assault and attempted kidnapping:
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A California man was charged today with assault and attempted kidnapping in violation of federal law in connection with the break-in at the residence of Nancy and Paul Pelosi in San Francisco on Friday.
According to the complaint, David Wayne DePape, 42, of Richmond, was arrested on Friday inside the Pelosi residence by San Francisco Police Department (SFPD) police officers responding to a 911 call from Paul Pelosi, husband of U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Paul Pelosi later described to police that he had been asleep when DePape, whom he had never seen before, entered his bedroom looking for Nancy Pelosi.
According to the complaint, minutes after the 911 call, two police officers responded to the Pelosi residence where they encountered Paul Pelosi and DePape struggling over a hammer. Officers told the men to drop the hammer, and DePape allegedly gained control of the hammer and swung it, striking Pelosi in the head. Officers immediately restrained DePape, while Pelosi appeared to be unconscious on the ground. As set forth in the complaint, once DePape was restrained, officers secured a roll of tape, white rope, a second hammer, a pair of rubber and cloth gloves, and zip ties from the crime scene, where officers also observed a broken glass door to the back porch.
DePape is charged with one count of assault of an immediate family member of a United States official with the intent to retaliate against the official on account of the performance of official duties, which carries a maximum sentence of 30 years in prison. DePape is also charged with one count of attempted kidnapping of a United States official on account of the performance of official duties, which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison.[...]
demagogue on 1/11/2022 at 08:21
For some reason, after all we've already seen, (
https://www.facebook.com/groups/557189365622654/?multi_permalinks=694036951937894) this kind of shit still feels inexplicable. (In the thread I saw it in, the top comment was "Marked Safe From - Getting in a hammer fight at 2:30 am while in my underwear with another guy who's in his underwear.")
I get that cruelty is the joke, but it used to be that somebody did something to deserve their pain -- like being weak against or even inviting criminals, what did you expect? But the joke is just a guy getting literally & randomly bludgeoned in the skull with a hammer by someone breaking into their home. Or I guess it's you married the devil, what did you expect? Or, your own people (or you yourself?) planned this, so...
I don't know. It feels like a new level of derailed beyond honestly believing the election was stolen or that the Dems are running a child porn and hormone harvesting ring. Not even the veneer of a ridiculous justification.
heywood on 1/11/2022 at 15:51
What kind of person would take pleasure in an elderly guy getting his head bashed in by a mentally ill drifter? A lot of people apparently, judging by the gleeful posts I see on some of the other forums I visit. There's also a lot of people who still believe this is an inside job, which means the cops would have to be in on it too.
It's inexplicable because it's irrational. It's not just separate information bubbles. A good quarter of this country are acting like a bunch of teenagers rebelling from their parents. They're rejecting what they learned in school, rejecting normal standards of behavior, and reflexively rejecting anything the left holds dear. If you support it, they won't trust it. Logic and facts will be met with derision as we can see happening with this story unfortunately. The solution is for these people to "grow up", but I don't know what's going to make that happen.
Most of these people will argue that they are not trying to make the Bible the law, or destroy the environment, or turn a democracy into a plutocracy. And yet that's what they enable, because they are being used by the Republican elite they complain about.
Tocky on 2/11/2022 at 01:11
Oh no, it's the Demoncrat elite they complain about. The Republican elite they swear fealty to and are willing to ignore any logical thing in favor of believing any lie for no matter how outlandish.
Nicker on 2/11/2022 at 13:19
Are Radical Hollywood Dems any better? Need PROOF!?!?!?!
[video=youtube;9Kq7IwqWPJ4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kq7IwqWPJ4[/video]
Tocky on 2/11/2022 at 15:15
Quote Posted by Nicker
Are Radical Hollywood Dems any better? Need PROOF!?!?!?!
I'll have you know that I lost two great grandfathers and half my dignity in the great Obo war. HOW DARE YOU
Cipheron on 3/11/2022 at 02:28
Chinese intelligence pretending to be MAGA influencers:
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https://www.rawstory.com/maga-republican-uncovered-chinese-spy/)
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Ultra-MAGA 'Hot Babe' who claimed Obama is an Illuminati lizard turns out to be a Chinese spy
Just as Elon Musk is taking over Twitter, the company uncovered three China-based operatives pretending to be influencers in American politics as part of an effort to polarize Americans ahead of the 2022 midterm elections.
In a cache of data released by the site, nearly 2,000 users were uncovered as they claimed election-rigging and attacked members of the transgender community. They also promoted pro-China narratives to their American audience.
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One network that was removed from Twitter showed 22 users that tweeted more than 250,000 times from April to October and generally promoted Donald Trump, along with conspiracy theories about the pandemic and vaccines.
"Alethea, another recipient of the data, concluded that Chinese-linked accounts on Twitter and elsewhere were pursuing divisiveness but plugging right-wing issues more than left, sometimes with nods to conspiracy theories," the report also said.
The newly announced batch of suspensions promoted, in May, that former President Barack Obama was a “lizard person who is a member of the Illuminati.” The author went by the name Ultra MAGA BELLA Hot Babe, and had 26,000 followers with more than 400,000 likes and 180,000 retweets. The account has since been suspended.
She also pushed out memes with false 2020 election conspiracies like a photo of someone holding a paper bag near a drop box. She claimed, “MULE TAKING PICS! PROOF OF CRIME REQUIRED TO GET PAID BY THE DNC.” In June, that account also tweeted the idea that children with gender dysphoria were being abused by their parents.
lowenz on 3/11/2022 at 09:06
MAGA people (trads/cons) are so gullible - or in desperate search for "something to believe in" - and that's the real permanent problem.
