Starker on 23/12/2021 at 20:07
Meanwhile, a year ago, some predictions held up better than others.
Starker on 24/12/2021 at 15:17
So close to doing the right thing, at last, after 800k deaths and counting:
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https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/587079-trump-pushes-back-on-candace-owens-people-arent-dying)
Former President Trump in an interview with conservative media personality Candace Owens pushed back over her claims undermining the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines.
In a Tuesday episode of the Daily Wire show "Candace," Trump told Owens that he takes credit for the “incredible speed” of how the vaccines were developed during his time in office and his partnership with private pharmaceutical companies.
“I came up with a vaccine, with three vaccines,” Trump told Owens. “All are very, very good. Came up with three of them in less than nine months. It was supposed to take five to 12 years.”
Owens then said to Trump that more people died from the virus in 2021 than in 2020 even with the vaccine being administered to the public, taking a shot at President Biden.
“Yet more people have died under COVID this year,” Owens told Trump. “By the way, under Joe Biden, than under you and more people took the vaccine this year. So people are questioning how—”
“Oh no, the vaccines work, but some people aren't the ones. The ones who get very sick and go to the hospital are the ones that don't take the vaccine. But it's still their choice. And if you take the vaccine, you're protected,” Trump told Owens.
“Look, the results of the vaccine are very good, and if you do get it, it's a very minor form,” Trump continued. “People aren't dying when they take the vaccine.”
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Some of his supporters don't seem to appreciate the change in tone, though:
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https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-reveals-got-covid-booster-shot-1661078)
Donald Trump was met with boos when he revealed he had received a booster shot of the coronavirus vaccine on Sunday. Trump made the revelation after telling a mostly unmasked crowd at the American Airlines Center in Dallas that they should "take credit" for the coronavirus vaccines developed during his presidency.
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For some people, this was even the last final straw to get them off the train, apparently (fair warning, the video in that tweet melting your brain is a distinct possibility):
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https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1473307884314402818)
Jason Moyer on 24/12/2021 at 19:15
Trump's been telling people to get vaccinated since the beginning. A significant chunk of his base is focused on him being the return of Jesus Christ instead of paying attention to anything he does or says.
Pyrian on 24/12/2021 at 20:28
That tracks. They don't seem to pay attention to anything Jesus Christ said or did, either.
Starker on 24/12/2021 at 23:18
Mentioning people should get the vaccine here and there is nice and all, but it's not like he was some kind of opinion columnist. He was the friggin' president of the United States and spectacularly failed to make use of one of the most powerful megaphones available. Where's the photo op of him getting vaccinated? Or getting the booster?
He came so close this time too, almost doing the right thing and not just mentioning it as an aside in between his rants and with plenty of hedging.
And as for his supporters, I almost don't blame them for their reaction -- the sudden tone change must be really jarring in between ranting about the deep state and baby eating Democrats or whichever greatest hits he's rehashing. The problem is, when you previously told them the booster is just a money grab, when you've told them the virus will just go away on its own, when you've told them to take ineffective medication, who's going to believe you?
Of course, that's not just with vaccines. The GOP has fed the lunatic fringe until it won't listen to anything but the wildest of fantasies about their political opponents getting executed.
demagogue on 25/12/2021 at 01:57
Quote Posted by Jason Moyer
Trump's been telling people to get vaccinated since the beginning. A significant chunk of his base is focused on him being the return of Jesus Christ instead of paying attention to anything he does or says.
To be more precise, I think, Trump has been telling people whatever the last person he talked to said since the beginning.
If it's to promote getting vaccinated, he tells people to get vaccinated.
If it's some conspiracy theory, he spouts off some conspiracy theory.
He just doesn't care; he says anything based on the survival instinct of his ego & reading the room.
It's somehow even worse than if he'd been a dyed-in-the-wool legit crackpot.
lowenz on 25/12/2021 at 08:36
He's a toxic anc chaotic child, nothing less, nothing more.
As I've said before.....why conservative/right US citizens even accept to vote for a child? It's an enormous cultural problem.
Nicker on 25/12/2021 at 23:52
They won't give teens the vote but they will give nukes to a a toddler.
Cipheron on 30/12/2021 at 20:26
The latest piece of idiocy:
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https://truthout.org/articles/rand-paul-says-legal-campaign-methods-are-how-dems-steal-elections/)
Quote:
On Monday, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) shared a tweet suggesting that Democrats stole the 2020 presidential election — but when describing the tactics Democrats used to “steal” the election, he described exactly how democratically free elections work.
In his tweet, Paul cited a Washington Examiner article that explored how Democrats were able to flip Wisconsin from Trump in 2016 to Biden in 2020.
“How to steal an election: ‘Seeding an area heavy with potential Democratic votes with as many absentee ballots as possible, targeting and convincing potential voters to complete them in a legally valid way, and then harvesting and counting the results,'” Paul wrote.
Notably, the “steal” that Paul described in his tweet is simply how elections work — the candidate that wins has to convince a plurality of voters to choose them over competing candidates, and to cast their vote in a “legally valid” way.
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Many observers on social media noted that Paul used the word “steal” in error — and that he was simply upset that Biden won Wisconsin using fair and legal campaign methods.
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Several social media users observed that Paul's words were more revealing than he probably intended them to be — and that his tweet demonstrated Republicans' skepticism toward legitimate voting practices that have been used for decades.
“Not surprising a Republican thinks a normal voting process is stealing an election,” wrote journalist Jemele Hill.
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Political strategist Dante Atkins agreed. “What Rand Paul is expressing here is the fundamental conservative belief that people in cities intrinsically don't have the right to have a voice, and that if Democrats win, it's inherently a flawed result,” he wrote.
I especially like the use of "harvesting" votes to describe votes being collected and counted.
The phrase "legally valid" also suggests there's some other sense in which the votes *are not* valid, which fits with the last paragraph i quoted. "legally" valid as if the right to vote is a privilege and not a right.
Nicker on 6/1/2022 at 20:18
Feliz NAVOADD.
Wishing all of our American friends a very happy, Narrowly Averted the Violent Overthrow of American Democracy Day!
And an Accountable New Year!
