demagogue on 10/12/2020 at 14:24

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Well anyway, speaking of Germany, they're evidently civilization's last stand now these days.
This video just came down, and it's striking how unique it sounds, when it shouldn't.
It's hard to even remember a US leader speaking with this kind of empathy, honest concern, and respect for science.
The US is shooting for 4000 deaths a day and the silence couldn't be any more booming.

[video=youtube;qlIL9F5xHDw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlIL9F5xHDw[/video]

june gloom on 10/12/2020 at 21:30

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You know, on a better forum, you'd be banned or at least tempbanned for this. But on TTLG nothing will happen to you because we love jerking off to "free speech" and other imaginary concepts here.

nemyax on 10/12/2020 at 21:54

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june gloom
You've been begging for censorship (I think this was your third time), but I suggest you disprove what you quoted instead. Incidentally, the terrorist was buried with honours in his parents' native village a couple of days ago. Apparently his hate crime was heroic to the wonderful locals. How would you feel about discussing the use of gender-neutral pronouns with those creatures? I suppose that sounds a bit more menacing than a ban from TTLG.
Anyway, things are about to change: (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/france-islamist-separatism/2020/12/09/13c5e43a-3996-11eb-aad9-8959227280c4_story.html)

Renault on 10/12/2020 at 22:37

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Thank god the angry weirdo days are long behind you. Whew.

Cipheron on 11/12/2020 at 04:56

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How silly. So he didn't vote *against* the Republicans on a bill they wrote, and that makes him THE "architect" of the whole thing. How dumb. The point is that if he had voted against it your lot wouldn't let him live it down that he was a traitor / pro-Islam by NOT voting for it. People seem to forget the whole fascistic "with us or against us" thing that Bush and the Republicans were doing especially in 2001-2003. The Republicans already had the majority and it was *their* bill.

Biden's vote didn't matter, so he chose to vote for what at the time appeared to be the "America First" choice. At the time the goal was to get Bush voted out in 2004, and that would have been harder if they gave Bush ammo to characterize Democrats as "weak on terrorism". The bill was passed literally 6 weeks after the September 11th attack. If literally every Democrat voted against it they would have been pilloried in the streets, and it would have STILL passed. Not only was Biden nowhere near the "architect" of this, his vote didn't even matter. It's the mere fact that he WAS a US senator, and basically everyone but one guy who was a Senator at the time voted for this. The vote was 99 to 1. Biden's entire link to the event was just BEING a Senator since everybody was on board. You can say Trump didn't vote for it purely because he wasn't a Senator in 2001. If he had been, of course the fucker would have voted for it, because EVERYBODY did.

This is a constant thing, for example people saying to vote against Clinton and for Republicans, because Bill Clinton didn't veto the
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act which allowed the Glass Steagal Repeal. Despite, you know, all three of those people who wrote the damn bill, and which it's named after, being Republicans.

So Bill Clinton was president when Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act was up and he didn't veto that, so I often heard Republicans call him the "architect" of that, yet Bush doesn't get any blame for not vetoing the Patriot Act apparently because Biden didn't vote against it, so it's Biden's baby now.

Sure, Democrats have made mistakes but to lay stuff that was clearly written and pushed entirely by Republicans as being entirely the Democrat's fault because they didn't push back hard enough is clearly a dumb reason to start voting Republican.

It's as if you hired a security guard and he failed to stop a rapist getting in your house. So the logical thing must be to fire the guard and hire the rapist as your doorman instead. You don't hire the monster who caused the whole thing because someone else failed to stop them.