SubJeff on 22/11/2020 at 20:16
Me too.
I agree with you june, but you know - democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried.
Kolya on 22/11/2020 at 20:37
Apparently he just discovered that concepts aren't physical things, so I'm not holding my breath for Gloomy to come up with a better system than democracy anytime soon.
june gloom on 22/11/2020 at 22:18
Not a he, thank you.
Tomi on 22/11/2020 at 22:39
English language needs to get on with the times and come up with a better (gender-neutral) pronoun.
mopgoblin on 22/11/2020 at 22:58
We have singular they, it's been a thing for hundreds of years as I understand it. We use it all the time for an abstract person, or a specific person of unknown gender. Some people get stodgy about the fact that it's the same word as plural-they, but we already have non-gendered singular-or-plural you (yous/youse/you all/y'all exist but only in some places) so that's really just tilting at windmills
june gloom on 22/11/2020 at 23:26
Kolya's just doing it on purpose because he can't muster the basic human decency to call people what they want to be called regardless of any other disagreement.
Tocky on 23/11/2020 at 00:31
At any rate we went through this discussion awhile back anyway. I believe there was talk of an internet based everyone vote on everything with little or no government or titular head. It was eventually reasoned that the devil just might be in the details on that one, but then, here we have the devil in reality with representative democracy so who could tell where it would go now.
I understand megalomaniacs seeking ultimate power, it's kind of what they do, but I've failed to understand people granting it to them. Once they have revealed a non acceptance of reality they have begun a departure from truth and I've always felt that truth will win out just on it's staying power. Now I'm not so sure. Trumps was a four year campaign against the media and truth. Somehow he got nearly half the voting US to follow him alone against all media up to and including Fox who eventually had to part ways partially to keep some semblance of sanity. They needn't have though. Sanity no longer enters into the equation. Whatever Trump says, no matter how insane, is now accepted as literal truth by his followers. Jesus himself could say no word against him. And now they have OAN and parler to repeat whatever lie he wishes to distort reality with. IS the poison Koolaid far behind?
But I do decline the civil war the Bugaloo types push for. They aren't on our side anyway. They are just wanting the death of civility and the nation itself to rebuild a shining new white only no gays America. They think they have the guns and men to pull it off. And they think we can be goaded into starting the mess. I will yet hope sanity prevails. I'll keep looking for the better angels. Perhaps the Biden camp isn't so far off in waiting and trusting the system which has lasted so long. Surely there are enough good men left.
Nameless Voice on 23/11/2020 at 00:57
One depressing counterpoint to "the people vote on everything" is Switzerland, where they have that. They only gave women the vote in 1971, because the men had to vote on whether the women should get to.
Starker on 23/11/2020 at 05:33
You know that crazy lady from the infamous leaky press conference? The first one who talked about Hugo Chavez, etc. Apparently, she just coincidentally happened to be there and talk on behalf of them:
Briareos H on 23/11/2020 at 07:08
So that's what she meant when she kept rambling about releasing the kraken!
