demagogue on 6/11/2020 at 16:26
In a normal election, it's supposed to happen after the presumptive winner get the concession call, which is why that job has to go to McConnell, since it's clear Trump can't do it, and he can also get the rest of the GOP rank & file in line. But anyway I imagine it's a balance between Biden's case being as strong as possible balanced against the uncertainty and instability fomented as long as it's not clear what's happening. I'm sure there's a sweet spot somewhere in there when it's the right to to make the announcement.
Thor on 6/11/2020 at 16:33
Quote Posted by Renzatic
That's just Gloom's natural exuberance over things they feel strongly about. You're here to annoy us for the sake of annoying us, which lowers your likability quotient somewhat.
So you're saying subjeff is one of those people that have a double account in other to account for their more edgy views?
Well, I'm not really here to annoy you guys (and actually, I don't really see the emotion of "annoying" someone as a component of pursuing truth and open-mindedness).
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Hey, what did teenagers ever do to deserve comparison with this guy?
I think I remember a self-important pseudo-"scientist" rambling on about his agendas over anything he believes in religiously some years ago, hiding behind The Word of Science.
While I dp genuinely like a lot of people on this forum, especially of the Thief fandom part, I do notice a lot of... religious type mindset often. Nothing to do with Jesus, but of zealous beliefs over things. If I challenge something in the slightest of ways (either be it a half-joking comment or a defense of my own argument), I get a kind of threatening vibe of "you're not welcome here, ban button right here bud". If you really need that bubble, then just delete my messages and inform me that I'm banned from commchat (if technical possibilities don't allow such separation). I just don't want to be banned from other forums here especially the Gaming and Thief ones, where there is thriving creativity going on.
faetal on 6/11/2020 at 16:36
Quote Posted by Thor
I think I remember a self-important pseudo-"scientist" rambling on about his agendas over anything he believes in religiously some years ago, hiding behind The Word of Science.
I'm flattered. I remember roughly fuck all about you, apart from the horse apples you've been doling out in this thread.
Thor on 6/11/2020 at 16:39
Quote Posted by faetal
I'm flattered. I remember roughly fuck all about you, apart from the horse apples you've been doling out in this thread.
Well I do make a few posts once every other year or so without guarantee, so I wouldn't really expect to be that memorable unless I made
the best posts ever or something. Meanwhile, I've seen you minge on about whatever, sometimes claiming how bought & paid scientists don't really care about someone neutral's thoughts.
faetal on 6/11/2020 at 16:43
Am I supposed to be shocked that you disagree or something? The whole point of education is that it puts you in a situation where you are at odds with stupidity.
(also, your idea of neutral is pretty funny)
Thor on 6/11/2020 at 16:59
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Am I supposed to be shocked that you disagree or something? The whole point of education is that it puts you in a situation where you are at odds with stupidity.
It does sound like you've had a lot of "education" (if you choose to miss my point of skepticism).
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(also, your idea of neutral is pretty funny)
Can't really address this at all without any elaboration. Not everyone thinks like you and your mates.
faetal on 6/11/2020 at 17:04
You don't really merit any response.
nemyax on 6/11/2020 at 17:16
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Reports coming out of Russia that Putin has parkinson's disease so he will be stepping down from office next year (this came from FOX news).
It certainly looks like he's on his way out, even though Parkinson's is probably someone's imagination running away with them. Some time ago he pushed through a law that gives former presidents the right to become senators for life. Today he shat out another law that gives him immunity from prosecution so he can't be taken to court for his crimes, past and future.
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this biden character
There's no character there.
rachel on 6/11/2020 at 17:18
Thor, if you want a masterclass on how to debate, I'm sure you can find a ton of those online. Either give a meaningful contribution or just lurk. Even Vae and his inane fearmongering were at least related to the discussion at hand...
Medlar on 6/11/2020 at 17:30
I guess most of you crazies probably have seen this, if not;
A few things spring to mind...
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump's limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don't say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it's a fact. He doesn't even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll.
And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn't just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It's all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.
Well, we don't. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.
Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
He's not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.
He's more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think
‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy'
is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it's impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form;
He is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit.
His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.
He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:
‘My God... what... have... I... created?'
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.
Nate White, answering a question on Quora