Renzatic on 6/11/2020 at 14:22
Quote Posted by heywood
Of course, things won't really be over until we know what's going to happen with all the challenges.
Right now, it doesn't seem that the courts are cooperating too much with the Trump campaign, giving him the bare basics of what he requests, but not doing anything that could upset the vote itself.
I won't say nothing can happen, and I wouldn't consider Trump gone until he leaves the White House on Jan. 21st, but for the moment, it looks like Biden is the 46th President of the United States.
Starker on 6/11/2020 at 14:23
Quote Posted by raph
Looks like Biden took the lead in PA. Holy cow.
And this doesn't include ballots that arrived in mail after 3 Nov. Those are being kept separately for now.
heywood on 6/11/2020 at 14:27
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Right now, it doesn't seem that the courts are cooperating too much with the Trump campaign, giving him the bare basics of what he requests, but not doing anything that could upset the vote itself.
I won't say nothing can happen, and I wouldn't consider Trump gone until he leaves the White House on Jan. 21st, but for now, it looks like Biden is the 46th President of the United States.
In some states, perhaps most, he can't legally challenge the result until the canvassing is complete. Like in Wisconsin, he's already said he's requesting a recount, but he's still got to wait for the count to be complete before he can actually make the request. I still think there will be recounts and challenges, but I agree it's hard to see any path for him to win. GA is so close that a recount could flip it for him I suppose, but that's not enough.
heywood on 6/11/2020 at 14:29
Wow.
I can't believe he actually said that on his podcast. Think it, sure. But to come out publicly in favor of murdering civil servants and armed insurrection...
Starker on 6/11/2020 at 14:31
They really hate Fauci, huh?
In other news, looks like there are still tens of thousands of ballots sitting undelivered (against a court order no less) in USPS facilities.
Gryzemuis on 6/11/2020 at 14:33
Most ballots are in Biden's favor. CNN kept mention a 70%-30% balance. But not all ballots.
In fact it depends on the county. E.g. in PA they were counting Philadelphia's ballot votes last. And in cities Biden tends to have the advantage. I think the smaller counties, in general, are quicker done counting, even the ballots. But in bigger counties, like cities, the counting takes more time. And when ballots are being counted last in those large counties, they will favor Biden.
Another factor is ballots from people oversees. Ex-pats and military. Especially the military voters tend to vote more for Trump. That's why we saw in Arizona how Trump clawed his way back towards Biden.
CNN and others expect Biden to win. I agree. I hope. But it's so close, and it does have some unpredictability, it's not 100% over yet. Fingers crossed. (My fingers are starting to hurt, after 3 days ....)
Renzatic on 6/11/2020 at 14:40
Quote Posted by heywood
In some states, perhaps most, he can't legally challenge the result until the canvassing is complete. Like in Wisconsin, he's already said he's requesting a recount, but he's still got to wait for the count to be complete before he can actually make the request. I still think there will be recounts and challenges, but I agree it's hard to see any path for him to win. GA is so close that a recount could flip it for him I suppose, but that's not enough.
Any state that's won or lost by 1% or less is automatically eligible for a recount, so yeah, I expect Trump to request a few. Thing is, recounts rarely ever change the results of an election. They're more a formality. While it is possible some great error could be found that ends up swinging the results back to Trump, the chances of such are highly unlikely.
With Biden currently taking Pennsylvania, and his victory projected to be over 3% once all the ballots are tallied, and Arizona likely swinging his way over the 1% margin, the only question now is how big Biden's EC victory will be.
demagogue on 6/11/2020 at 15:16
White House staffer: "No one here is willing to confront King Lear with the truth."
I don't envy that guy's job, but I trust the secret service to do what they do best in the end; keep interlopers off the White House grounds when the time comes.
Edit: My county went Blue by only about 400 people out of ~800,000+ voters, about the size of my graduating class alone, and I could count a good chunk of them just from my class. Interesting to see how close the results get looking at the really local level like that.
ffox on 6/11/2020 at 15:28
I was amused by the following from a (
https://theatreboard.co.uk/thread/2311/day-random-off-topic-chat?page=447) UK Theatre Forum:
Employment Opportunity
The White House is in urgent need of someone to follow the President around and pick up the toys he keeps throwing out of his pram. This is a full time position of 40 hours per week with a further 16 hours on call at weekends. Prior experience of working with toddlers, the mentally impaired or bovine excrement will be an advantage, as will the ability to play dumb so as not to embarrass the poor dear.
Salary: $200 / hour. You'll earn it.
Benefits: None, because America.
Availability for immediate start is essential.
People with foreign-sounding names need not apply.
