rachel on 4/11/2020 at 11:18
So far the only evidence of anything looking like fraud came for the Republican camp, vae. Having the Postal service suppress mailboxes, changing voting locations, gerrymandering, extreme litigation, stacking the courts all the way up to the SC, most of this shit comes from the GOP.
Marco Rubio, freaking Marco Rubio of all people, praised the caravan that almost forced the Biden campaign bus off the road in Texas. They've been working their ass off so much to deny people the right to vote, to the point that simply telling people to go vote is seen as partisan.
And fucking Mitch gets to keep his seat. It's utterly disgusting.
Starker on 4/11/2020 at 11:20
Quote Posted by Vae
This would only be true if there were the absolute assurance of no voter fraud...which there is not.
...and so we enter into a crisis.
There has never been an absolute assurance of no voter fraud. Nor do you have to prove the absence of a crime for something to be legitimate.
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And fucking Mitch gets to keep his seat. It's utterly disgusting.
His seat was never in any real danger. But right now Republicans seem to be doing much better in the Senate than expected.
Tomi on 4/11/2020 at 11:22
Quote Posted by Vae
This would only be true if there were the absolute assurance of no voter fraud...which there is not.
...and so we enter into a crisis.
Is there any solid evidence of Democrats fabricating hundreds of thousands of votes then?
Not counting all legit votes sounds like a much bigger fraud to me. How can you even call it democratic if one candidate gets to say which votes count and which don't?
...and so Trump and his cult takes us all into a crisis.
Gryzemuis on 4/11/2020 at 11:23
Quote Posted by Nameless Voice
No matter what the final result, the fact that it's close is beyond depressing.
There really is no hope for humanity in the US of A.
Anymore who actively supports Trump blatantly supports racism, misogyny, homophobia, concentration camps and eugenics for immigrants... And that's close to half of the people who bothered to vote.
I'm convinced that if Hitler were alive today, and spoke good English, the USA would vote for him in droves.
Very true, Nameless Voice. I was about to post exactly the same thing.
For me last night means a confirmation that almost half of Americans are simply fascists.
Not the 39-45 type of fascists, that start wars and build destruction camps.
No, just the 30-33 type of fascists, that voted Hitler into power.
Give it a few years.
Jason Moyer on 4/11/2020 at 11:47
Quote Posted by Gryzemuis
Typically USA. They have their first transgender member of parliament before they have their first atheist member of parliament.
We've had at least one atheist senator and a couple openly atheist congressmen.
Nameless Voice on 4/11/2020 at 11:57
Quote Posted by Gryzemuis
For me last night means a confirmation that almost half of Americans are simply fascists.
That's not quite true and I was careful not to say that.
In any election, there's always a huge percentage of people who simply don't vote.
They're not necessarily fascists, they just don't care if they're ruled by fascists.
SubJeff on 4/11/2020 at 12:02
Quote Posted by Nameless Voice
Anymore who actively supports Trump blatantly supports racism, misogyny, homophobia, concentration camps and eugenics for immigrants...
This just simply isn't true though. It's hyperbole of the worst type. There are 1000s of black and hispanic voters voting for Trump. Do you believe they support all this stuff?
Come on.
Quote Posted by Vae
This would only be true if there were the absolute assurance of no voter fraud...which there is not.
Has there ever been a serious case of voter fraud in the USA?
Nameless Voice on 4/11/2020 at 12:15
Support through ignorance is still support.
Plus, after four years, they should know who they're voting for. Such blatant ignorance is simply no excuse.
"Turkeys voting for Christmas" is a saying for a reason.
rachel on 4/11/2020 at 12:16
Quote Posted by SubJeff
This just simply isn't true though. It's hyperbole of the worst type. There are 1000s of black and hispanic voters voting for Trump. Do you believe they support all this stuff?
You know what? Yes, they do, if not explicitly then by omission. There is absolutely no excuse for any even half-educated person to support someone as vile as Trump, none whatsoever. The man is a disgrace to his office and utterly unfit to hold any kind of public position.
Starker on 4/11/2020 at 12:23
Quote Posted by Nameless Voice
"Turkeys voting for Christmas" is a saying for a reason.
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