nbohr1more on 19/10/2020 at 02:32
Quote Posted by SubJeff
The truth isn't important to Trump voters. They've now got it in their heads that Hunter did "bad things" and it's another meme for the like pizza-shop basement sex slaves etc etc.
Gawd I love American politics.
To the contrary. In many pro-Trump spaces, posters have been asking for raw emails so they can use the DKIM signatures to validate their authenticity just as was done with Wikileaks.
Too bad nobody on the left bothered to care about the what DKIM signing means...
Renzatic on 19/10/2020 at 03:11
Anyone else think it's weird how a bunch of conspiracy theorists who can spin an entire narrative out of three words in an email don't question why a guy who lives in California would fly all the way cross country to drop a laptop off for repairs at a shop in Delaware run by a visually impaired guy who can't identify who actually gave him the computer, forgets he has it for 6 months, then conveniently drops it off on Giuliani's doorstep three weeks before an election, all filled with multiple "smoking guns" showing what couldn't be proven through two federal investigations, and a probe by the Ukrainian government?
I'm sure there's a very clear, linear explanation for all this.
edit: Oh, and no one's actually seen the original emails, since Giuliani refuses to release them. So no one, not any forensics experts, nor any boobleheaded fuckwits in "pro-Trump spaces" can analyze them.
Starker on 19/10/2020 at 03:32
The deep state works in mysterious ways.
Renzatic on 19/10/2020 at 03:44
They use DKIM for extra security. Sometimes, they'll parse the binary bitdata through HTTPS for added protocols.
nbohr1more on 19/10/2020 at 03:48
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Anyone else think it's weird how a bunch of conspiracy theorists who can spin an entire narrative out of three words in an email don't question why a guy who lives in California would fly all the way cross country to drop a laptop off for repairs at a shop in Delaware run by a visually impaired guy who can't identify who actually gave him the computer, forgets he has it for 6 months, then conveniently drops it off on Giuliani's doorstep three weeks before an election, all filled with multiple "smoking guns" showing what couldn't be proven through two federal investigations, and a probe by the Ukrainian government?
I'm sure there's a very clear, linear explanation for all this.
edit: Oh, and no one's actually seen the original emails, since Giuliani refuses to release them. So no one, not any forensics experts, nor any boobleheaded fuckwits in "pro-Trump spaces" can analyze them.
For the record, I am pessimistic about the authenticity of these emails until we have a digital forensics trail.
If these turn out to be faked, it will validate my other pet theory that Trump has been play acting the "pro wrestler heel" this whole time and doing all sorts
of outrageous things to impugn Julian's work by association so that the deep state could destroy as much evidence as possible leaving the Wikileaks
releases stranded from real-world connections.
That would also explain why Judicial Watch was getting push-back from Trump's DOJ when trying to get more Clinton FOIA data and had to sue the DOJ.
One would think that Judicial Watch uncovering more Clinton wrongdoings would be beneficial to Trump's political fortunes so he would help them out but instead
they had to sue to get this damaging material. That stinks of Trump pretending to be Clinton's enemy and really helping her cover her tracks.
Side note:
What are the chances of a fly landing on Hillary during the 2016 debates and the right-wingers exploding into Zombie Clinton memes then in this election
cycle the exact same thing happens to Pence except the fly memes are now all "professionally produced" and launched seconds after the debate aired?
Renzatic on 19/10/2020 at 04:03
Quote Posted by nbohr1more
For the record, I am pessimistic about the authenticity of these emails until we have a digital forensics trail.
If these turn out to be faked, it will validate my other pet theory that Trump has been play acting the "pro wrestler heel" this whole time and doing all sorts of outrageous things to impugn Julian's work by association so that the deep state could destroy as much evidence as possible leaving the Wikileaks releases stranded from real-world connections.
...or it could just be a desperate last ditch effort to generate an October surprise against Biden, boosting Trump's chances in the upcoming election.
You know, whichevs.
Quote Posted by nbohr1more
What are the chances of a fly landing on Hillary during the 2016 debates and the right-wingers exploding into Zombie Clinton memes then in this election cycle the exact same thing happens to Pence except the fly memes are now all "professionally produced" and launched seconds after the debate aired?
...what the fuck is a "professionally produced" meme?
Memes are just pictures with some words on them. There are whole websites out there that can generate them in about 10 seconds. All it takes is for some random guy to grab a screenshot from a live stream, and run it through a meme generator, and the next thing you know, it's going viral.
SubJeff on 19/10/2020 at 05:15
Quote Posted by june gloom
lol., for example your insistent attempts to harass me over PM because your ego couldn't handle that I don't like you.
For the record - I was simply reaching out to try clear the air so that we could at least be civil to each other. But I guess that's bad, right?
And good job ignoring all the other things I said. I guess being caught our by your own anti-wealth bs was too much to take.
FYI the official BLM group wants to defund the police. That's an extreme left view if I've ever seen one. If anything the riots in the US have shown the police need more funding.
But then you probably think looting is a valid form of protest.
I'm all for the anti-racism message, but the anti-authority message but so much.
Good job ignoring everything else I replied to. It's almost fun watching the cycle.
SubJeff on 19/10/2020 at 05:20
Quote Posted by Renzatic
...or it could just be a desperate last ditch effort to generate an October surprise against Biden, boosting Trump's chances in the upcoming election.
Ha ha. How is it not exactly this?
Not that I think he needs it. It's pretty scary that is actually a 2 horse race.
june gloom on 19/10/2020 at 06:05
Quote Posted by SubJeff
And good job ignoring all the other things I said. I guess being caught our by your own anti-wealth bs was too much to take.
FYI the official BLM group wants to defund the police. That's an extreme left view if I've ever seen one. If anything the riots in the US have shown the police need more funding.
But then you probably think looting is a valid form of protest.
I'm all for the anti-racism message, but the anti-authority message but so much.
Good job ignoring everything else I replied to. It's almost fun watching the cycle.
God, you're so fucking terrified of the status quo being upended, aren't you? This is why you're not a leftist. You are exactly the model of what people think of when talking about classism.
Quote Posted by SubJeff
For the record - I was simply reaching out to try clear the air so that we could at least be civil to each other. But I guess that's bad, right?
There's nothing to clear. I think you're scum and I hate you and we will never ever be friends. We never have been friends. I don't want you messaging me because your self-fellating should be public for all to see. Which is why I opposed the creation of the Member's Chat subforum back in the day, too. And true to my prediction, it became the SubJeff Subforum, a private place where you could spew all your absolute worst takes with no consequences.
Again -- Tony, Eva, Vae, et al., I expect nothing from them. I poke fun at them (especially Tony who genuinely seems to think I plan to kill him) but it's you who I think is the most insidiously dangerous person on this forum, hiding your sophistry and hypocrisy behind a thin facade of being reasonable, and often contradicting things you've argued in other threads and pretending you didn't say them.
SubJeff on 19/10/2020 at 07:08
If you think defunding the police is simply "a change in status quo" and not a concerted push towards anarchy you've lost the plot. In the USA the police need reform, not removal. You can't actually believe in police defunding can you?! To what end? How do you see that planning out?
I don't deny what I've said, but I reserve the right to change my opinion like everyone. So don't go mining something I said 10 years ago when I've clearly changed my mind. There are some things I've never changed my mind on, and being pro-choice is one of them. You probably don't know this but one can opt out of taking part in terminations in the UK under the Abortion Act. I never did this and I've been involved in more terminations than you've had coherent reflections on the matter.
