heywood on 16/10/2020 at 17:10
That was in the last few days before the election. What use is a poll at the end of the contest? At this time in 2016, RCP had her up by 7% nationally. NH wasn't an aberration. The polls consistently showed her +5-10% in Michigan, +4-5% in Wisconsin, and she was up most of the way in Florida and North Carolina too. And lost all of them. I don't trust the polls at all. They may measure preference, but I don't think they accurately indicate who is going to show up in the end. Trump found a lot of voters at the last minute which the previous polling wasn't capturing.
Nicker on 16/10/2020 at 17:12
No mention of Assange nor of anyone's death or torture in your source.
Nicker on 16/10/2020 at 17:20
Quote Posted by demagogue
Does anybody want to tell Trump what the Babylon Bee is?
9 of 10 replies to Rump's tweet is outraged followers who are totally unaware this is satire, even after being told exactly that. They want it to be true so badly.
Pyrian on 16/10/2020 at 17:43
Quote Posted by SubJeff
You've read my political leanings perfectly.
If you want people to stop mistaking you for a duck, you could stop quacking and waddling.
Quote Posted by heywood
That was in the last few days before the election. What use is a poll at the end of the contest?
What do you think a poll
is? It neither
is nor is
intended to be a predictor of the future. But if you want to get into that, sure, we can get into that. The 2016 election bounced around a lot. The 2020 election hasn't. In fact it moves so little that Biden's gain of a few percentage points the other week was considered big news. Indeed Trump's approval rating has hardly budged in years - only coming down a few points in the wake of the first big Covid-19 wave in the U.S..
Quote Posted by heywood
I don't trust the polls at all. ... Trump found a lot of voters at the last minute which the previous polling wasn't capturing.
Your hypothesis is totally inconsistent with the fact the last polls were very close to the result - unless you think that those polls somehow magically starting finding all those people. Y'know what
is consistent with them? People changed their minds.
Polls said there was going to be a blue wave in 2018. People said there wouldn't be. There was. And that was before citizens could vote
directly against Trump. Which every poll that asks, finds that people are
very motivated to do.
Renzatic on 16/10/2020 at 17:54
Quote Posted by nbohr1more
Because Trump has friends in the NSA.
Admiral Rogers (NSA) told Trump about what was happening with Trump Tower.
The Mueller Team is so dumb that they tried to claim that Russian "State Sponsored Hackers" used freeware CCleaner to cover their tracks.
They must have gotten gun shy about fabricating things when the Trump team traced the funding of the dossier back to Hillary and won the lawsuit against Perkins Coie.
The same reason that Crowdstrike recanted the "DNC hacking" claim when put under oath.
They know that the evidence exists and all they can do is peddle soft lies as propaganda unless an aligned Democrat gets elected POTUS
and can purge the NSA of Trump allies. (And kill all the former CIA whistle-blowers who have defended Trump, such as Kevin Shipp).
This isn't a response to the questions asked, it's a list of talking points centered around conspiracy theory memes and buzzwords.
Renzatic on 16/10/2020 at 18:03
Quote Posted by Pyrian
If you want people to stop mistaking you for a duck, you could stop quacking and waddling.
I'm not taking what he said as hero worship. It really does seem nothing can stop the guy.
As for the polls, it's already been stated, but the biggest issue wasn't an issue with the polling, rather the way the pundits chose to read them. Hillary never held a massive lead over Trump, and the talking heads took too many things for granted, such as the rust belt voting blue as it has for the last umpteen presidential elections, and the now quaint notion that America would NEVER vote for a loudmouth demagogue with no prior political experience. They assumed it'd go to Hillary by a hair.
But it didn't. The margin of error went to Trump, and he won it by that hair everyone assumed was reserved for Hillary. The rest is history.
The pollsters have been a lot more cautious since. The only reason why they're saying things look good for Biden now is because he's polling well beyond the margin of error, about as strongly as Obama did in 2008. Though as FiveThirtyEight states, this is all based on surveys, questionnaires, and extrapolated outcomes. If the people who have been surveyed don't go out and vote, then it doesn't matter how strongly America supports Biden. He'll lose.
Pyrian on 16/10/2020 at 18:29
Quote Posted by Renzatic
This isn't a response to the questions asked, it's a list of talking points centered around conspiracy theory memes and buzzwords.
I mean, he's been that way for
years.Quote Posted by Renzatic
I'm not taking what he said as hero worship. It really does seem nothing can stop the guy.
First off, you're not SubJeff. Second, the fact that he's literally
not dead hardly constitutes being unstoppable. Like, what, they built 5 miles of new border wall on a 2500 mile border? Something like that. And Mexico didn't pay for any of it. Now China's supposedly going to pay for new stimulus, which I suppose is accurate in that we're not getting any more stimulus and China isn't paying for it. The list of things Trump tries and fails to do is... Lengthy. Not least because he can hardly go a week without tweeting some absurd claim about what he's going to do and probably never even thinks about again.
Renzatic on 16/10/2020 at 18:37
I think you're reading too much into his statement, Pyrian. Subjeff has some goofy stances on some shit, and does like to piss people off for the simple sake of pissing them off, but I've never seen him be an outright Trump supporter before.
howeird on 16/10/2020 at 19:00
[video=youtube;Yky9xGsjQTE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yky9xGsjQTE[/video]
He has arrangements with Putin. Apparently not everything they agreed to has been accomplished yet.
[video=youtube;352k1ESyrmg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=352k1ESyrmg[/video]
I'm surprised no one has brought up the fact that Trumps father-in-law is a communist. And now Trump has made his wife's family all American citizens. Historically Republicans have been anti-communist.
----Edit----Putin's words
1) I found the Open Sky Project Putin was talking about. Looks like it benefits Putin by getting rid of it. (Big buffer between Russia and US called Europe and Atlantic Ocean - Alaska is on it's own. Canada buffer to the North)
2) Can't find any info on The Business Council Project
3) No info on Expert Council
