Jason Moyer on 13/10/2020 at 17:06
Quote Posted by nbohr1more
I guess this is some sort of attempt to play equivalences to the Rittenhouse situation.
I have a bunch of red pilled friends who were like "omg look at the video, he was just defending himself" and apparently didn't realize he had already murdered someone in cold blood, which is why everyone was chasing him. Not to discount the fact a 17 year old shouldn't be travelling somewhere to instigate violence with an assault rifle that he's not legally allowed to have.
Renzatic on 13/10/2020 at 18:50
To clarify that statement, a 17 year old shouldn't have his mom drive him to a riot to give him an excuse to shoot at people with a rifle he isn't legally allowed to bear in public.
Starker on 14/10/2020 at 03:34
Womp womp...
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html)
The federal prosecutor appointed by Attorney General William P. Barr to review whether Obama-era officials improperly requested the identities of individuals whose names were redacted in intelligence documents has completed his work without finding any substantive wrongdoing, according to people familiar with the matter.
The revelation that U.S. Attorney John Bash, who left the department last week, had concluded his review without criminal charges or any public report will rankle President Trump at a moment when he is particularly upset at the Justice Department. The department has so far declined to release the results of Bash's work, though people familiar with his findings say they would likely disappoint conservatives who have tried to paint the “unmasking” of names — a common practice in government to help understand classified documents — as a political conspiracy.
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Pyrian on 14/10/2020 at 07:25
Do any Trump supporters experience any cognitive dissonance at the spectacle of Trump openly directing the FBI to investigate his political opponents for the alleged crime of... Directing the FBI to investigate political opponents?
demagogue on 14/10/2020 at 08:06
That's really getting to the heart of it, projection to its core.
To answer that seriously, though, Trump's supporters are low information voters. So I think a sizeable number of them believe this is really about the QAnon story about child sex trafficking and satanic blood libel and The Storm, the flurry of prosecutions across the whole Democratic party they're expecting to come any day now. Those not quite as gone from reality will just think it's for some corruption or other because of course Dems are criminally corrupt. Emails! Benghazi! Seth Rich!
Trump's own worldview is that everybody looks out for themselves; all politicians and courts, etc, are blatantly corrupt; everybody has always been authoritarian. So you gotta go all out and destroy every threat first while you have the power or they'll just come back to destroy you later. He keeps saying it over and over, like to Sessions: oh you think Holder didn't commit crimes to protect Obama, or people complain about Putin installing Trump but the US probably installed Putin, or you complain about these assassinations but do you think the US is so innocent... He's repeated that line so many times -- that he literally can't imagine rule of law being a real thing people follow or care about, or things like "serving your country" because he can't imagine caring about those things -- you have to believe that's what he believes to his core, and he has no problem justifying any authoritarian travesty he can get away with that personally does the job for him.
howeird on 14/10/2020 at 13:33
I seen this yesterday. Do you trust the Republican Party to take your ballet to the polling station ?
[video=youtube;JYaEz4Cmmpg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYaEz4Cmmpg[/video]
heywood on 14/10/2020 at 21:07
We've started to see some dirty tricks here in NH too. The state Republican party mass mailed absentee ballot registration request packets all over the state, but with a subtle error: the wrong return address. After they were caught, they said OOPS, and then sent out a second mailer, this time with an official-looking but not quite official application form. The Attorney General, who also happens to be a Republican, slapped them with a cease a desist order.
More recently, we found out that the USPS made an internal policy change. Now, all ballots have to exit the local area and travel through a regional processing center, even if the destination address is the same town it was mailed from. Other mail isn't affected and just goes through the local post office. The USPS hasn't explained why and I'm not sure whether this is a nationwide change or a regional change, but it seems suspicious, like a plot to help ensure some ballots don't make it by the deadline.
I also read today that a US circuit court overruled a district judge and went along with Texas Gov. Abbott's order to limit ballot drop-off locations to one per county. For context, some of the counties in Texas are quite big. So now in the middle of the election, when ballots are already flowing in, the most populous county (Harris) has to get rid of 11 of its 12 ballot drop-offs that are already collecting ballots. Of course, Abbott is a Republican, and the district judge is a Democrat, and the circuit court is dominated by Republicans.
I can't imagine what's going to happen on election day and in the aftermath. So far, the party crying fraud are being exposed as the fraudsters. It seems like the Republican party is trying to make this the dirtiest, most corrupt election possible, as if their strategy is no longer to win but just muddy the waters enough to claim it wasn't legit.
Pyrian on 14/10/2020 at 22:16
"The election isn't legitimate!"
"Because you borked it up!"
"So... You agree? Great! To the Supreme Court!"
nbohr1more on 14/10/2020 at 22:36
Quote Posted by Starker
Womp womp...
So it completely OK to:
1) Use (unconstitutional) NSA surveillance on an opposing political party
2) Embed CIA assets into that same party
3) Lie on a FISA warrant application that this CIA asset is a "Russian Agent"
?
All this is "normal operations"?