Gryzemuis on 30/7/2020 at 17:29
You can't do elections in these times of Corona. Everybody understands that. So the elections have to be postponed.
But when is it safe to do elections ? Nobody knows. And the country needs to be governed. So the only sensible thing to do is just give the sitting President another 4 years. That would be fair. And smart.
And then what to do in 2024 ? Maybe you still can't do elections. Trump can't be President anymore, because the constitution doesn't allow it. So maybe change the constitution ? Other countries have done that. So why not the US ? More Trump can only be good, can't it. Or maybe Trump will (almost) be dead in 2024 ? Maybe he can already assign a dedicated follow-up ? Someone he (and his voters) trust ? It's all democratic after all, the voters gave Trump this power in 2016. So maybe Trump can assign Ivanka ? So Ivanka can be President from 2024-2032 ? Yep, make her President for 8 years straight away. Why have an election every 4 years ? That's only wasting the tax-payers money. If Ivanka get chosen President in 2024, she can be chosen for 8 years immediatly. No problem.
The future of the US is bright. That's for sure.
Starker on 30/7/2020 at 22:07
Quote Posted by heywood
My guess is that she keeps her mouth shut. I doubt the prosecutors will want to make a plea bargain unless she can offer up hard evidence they can use against a big fish for a crime bigger than sex trafficking. All these accusations from the 1990s are well past the statute of limitations except sex trafficking, which doesn't have a statute of limitations at the federal level. Besides, who's the bigger criminal, the party guest who has sex with an underage girl, or the person doing the underage sex trafficking? They probably already have their biggest target.
Oh, I don't mean the "clients" (though they deserve to rot in hell too), I mean the bastards who helped organise the whole thing. She could hardly have done it all alone. You don't think she might be offered a reduced sentence in exchange for giving up her associates?
demagogue on 30/7/2020 at 22:23
In this case the associates are also the victims, Tiffany Doe, Virginia Roberts, apparently dozens of other girls. They're the ones that organized the recruitment, transportation, payments, communication, scheduling & events, procurement, etc., until they found a way out and typically went into years of therapy. They kept it all in the family.
SubJeff on 30/7/2020 at 22:33
His Excellency The Life President incoming.
Starker on 30/7/2020 at 22:51
Yes, I know -- they had the girls act as recruiters. I've read all the reporting and a bunch of the court documents. But the Epstein household that dealt with this had to be bigger than just Maxwell and the victims roped into this. I mean, as they discussed on the podcast, the guy had butlers for every little thing.
Starker on 31/7/2020 at 00:05
Looks like there might be a pardon incoming:
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/30/appeals-court-michael-flynn-388384)
The full bench of a federal appeals court in Washington has agreed to consider whether a lower-court judge should be forced to dismiss a felony charge against Michael Flynn, the former national security adviser to Donald Trump.
The announcement Thursday from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit is a setback for Flynn, who scored an unexpected victory on the issue last month, when a smaller panel of that court voted, 2-1, to order U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan to grant the government's motion to drop the prosecution.
The appeals court said it will sit en banc to hear arguments in the case on Aug. 11.
Flynn pleaded guilty in 2017 to a felony charge of lying to FBI agents investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election. The former Defense Intelligence Agency chief reaffirmed his guilt in 2018, but has since sought to rescind his plea — an effort that eventually won the backing of the Justice Department, which moved earlier this year to abandon the case, citing alleged FBI misconduct.
But DOJ's decision sparked an outpouring of complaints that Attorney General William Barr was seeking to undermine the prosecution of a close Trump ally, and Sullivan rejected efforts to immediately dispose of the matter, instead appointing an outside adviser to determine whether the court has leeway to consider alternatives. Sullivan had scheduled a hearing on the matter for earlier this month but postponed it after the split three-judge appeals court panel ruled that he had overstepped his authority.
The decision to hear the case en banc is good news for Sullivan. He took the unusual and perhaps unprecedented step of seeking full-court review after the initial ruling — authored by Neomi Rao, a Trump appointee — left many criminal justice experts and even some former judges puzzled. Courts are loath to issue so-called “mandamus” decisions — forcing lower-court judges to take specific actions, like dismissing a case — when it isn't a last resort, and Sullivan repeatedly emphasized that he hadn't ruled one way or the other on Flynn's effort to end the case against him.
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In the meantime, the felony charge against Flynn is still pending.
Starker on 31/7/2020 at 03:10
I love it how he had to tuck in that little "absentee voting is good" clause, as Republican voters have now for decades been trained to vote by mail and the messaging that voting by mail is fraudulent is undermining it.
Nicker on 31/7/2020 at 04:17
It will be the most FRAUDULENT ELECTION EVER.. unless I win.
